whynot Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 99 legacy outback, When I leave the key in the car there is no buzzer. The light on the dash for the door works, so the car knows the door is open. How do i fix this? hopefully not replace the key tumbler. I would like to fix it, because I got a key fob, and can not program it. I assume that is because the car does not know that the key is in the car, on my other 99 that the key buzzer works in the programming went without issues. Thanks Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forester2002s Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just a thought... Is the buzzer working? Try 12V across the buzzer (if you can find it!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whynot Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 Is it possible to move this box to the car that I can get to program, and program it and move it back? I will check the buzzer, but I believe it is the switch becasue if it was just a buzzer I should be able to program the new remote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whynot Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 doing some searching, I found that if this was an issue, and the wire to the switch was cut, that the key can be removed when not in park, anyone know if this is true? this also applies to this car. Also can just the switch be changed, or is it part of the lock assembly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 before trying to replace anything, depending on where the wire was cut at, i would try repairing the wiring. If that does not resolve the issue, then go for replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montana tom Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 You can unplug the key dinger. No cutting required. Someone may have done this to your car. Check the harness up the column. Here in the sticks people routinely leave the key in the car many have come to me asking for that xxxx dinger to be shut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whynot Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) If the key dinger is just unplugged, will that also stop me from removing the key if not in park? is the dinger part of the instrument cluster on this car? Edited August 26, 2018 by whynot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Hmmm... I don't think we got dingers in our subi's unless there was some cheeky action going on... I also don't remember any chimes in our Gen3 ('99 model) like you describe. Are you sure you've got a key in chime for that model vehicle? Personally I don't see the issue about the key chime - I find them super annoying and with the function of remote locking it's pretty rare to lock the car manually anyway. This negates the need for an annoying key in chime. Cheers Bennie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 7 hours ago, el_freddo said: Hmmm... I don't think we got dingers in our subi's unless there was some cheeky action going on... I also don't remember any chimes in our Gen3 ('99 model) like you describe. Are you sure you've got a key in chime for that model vehicle? Personally I don't see the issue about the key chime - I find them super annoying and with the function of remote locking it's pretty rare to lock the car manually anyway. This negates the need for an annoying key in chime. Cheers Bennie maybe a difference in markets? my 2002 Forester definitely has a chime if the key is in the ignition, in the off position, but the door is open. it does not chime in the ACC or on positions, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montana tom Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Yes ,they all have a dinger in the US. other markets may have more sense... Whynot; The dinger has absolutely nothing to do with being able to remove the key . You have a remote programming issue. Your fob is bad or your under dash unit is malfunctioning. Or your wiring has been disabled / cut. Find another same year car at the wrecking yard and inspect the system on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whynot Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 Quote I have two the these cars, same year. The one that the dinger works in, programmed just fine, this one will not. Since the programming sequence has to do with the key cycle, if the car does not know that the key is in the car then it will not program, that is my assumption. I have not removed the covers on the steering wheel, but I have not found any cut wires at this point. If it is not the same switch that causes the dinger to work, why can I remove the key with the car in drive? key does have to be in the correct position. This all started just trying to program a key fob for these cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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