wagons Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Honestly has anybody ever used the Melling oil pump for the EA82? I just talked to an older Subaru guy here locally and he has two brats EA82 swapped and his GL. All 3 are using a Melling pump from Autozone. Or would i be better off collecting pumps from junk yards and resaling them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subarule Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Did you look up Melling oil pump reviews? Check on Amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Melling makes very good pumps. But unless something has dramatically changed very recently they aren't available for the EA82. No one makes a pump for the EA82 anymore. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagons Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 Thanks GD. My local autozone says they can get a melling. I guess I will have to see and compare it because it may not be the right one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) Melling does not list a pump for any year EA82. Nor does Autozone. https://www.melling.com/parts-lookup/ What part number did they give you? There is exactly 0% chance you will get anything that fits an EA82. GD Edited December 22, 2018 by GeneralDisorder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyeights Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 The part number for a Melling EA82 pump is - was M223 GD is right they seem to be long gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, wagons said: Thanks GD. My local autozone says they can get a melling. I guess I will have to see and compare it because it may not be the right one 1. Ask advance/autozone employee for an old gen part 2. It doesn’t fit Been there, you are wise to verify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Ask this Advance employee and you'll get the right part if it's available lol. There is no such beast for the ea82 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyeights Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, 86BRATMAN said: Ask this Advance employee and you'll get the right part if it's available lol. There is no such beast for the ea82 though. or the EA81 for than matter. I bought my spares from directly from Subaru when they were still available. I recall having to wait a long time for them to get a batch of them in from Japan. I was told by a shop owner I know that the Japan Fukushima radiation situation destroyed most of the older stock of parts for Japanese cars. It makes sense and it's sad if it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrgvanman Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 https://www.stockwiseauto.com/melling-m223-engine-oil-pump?Year=1987&Make=Subaru&Model=DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyeights Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 2 hours ago, lrgvanman said: https://www.stockwiseauto.com/melling-m223-engine-oil-pump?Year=1987&Make=Subaru&Model=DL On Sale: $53.46 Affirm Monthly Payments available on orders over $250. Learn more Availability: 0 New In Stock Quantity: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagons Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 Aparently our Autozone had the last 3. The old parts guy hoarded them for his Suby. The Old guy I talked to bought two and somebody else just had bought the last one, last week. Somebody who fabricates needs to make an external wet sump pump from peterson work lol. Thanks for the help guys. I should have bought it when it was in stock lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 I was just starting to think about that sort of thing. ... What is that Peterson pump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YnotDIY Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just bought one last week!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagons Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) Dave T, Peterson sells a wet sump external pump. It would mount down low next to the oil pan and have to have a belt system to drive it. A pickup would have to be placed in the pan and the external pump would have a feed tube. The pump would pump it out with an external line to an oil filter relocation kit and then into the engine. Hard to describe really but it would be costly as the pump is $700 alone. For the cost an EJ Swap would be more cost efficient. A lot more power and upgrades from an EJ. Yes the last NEW pump was bought last week Ynotdiy. Makes me angry! Lmao Edited December 23, 2018 by wagons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyeights Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just re-route the power steering pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Hmmmm. Maybe some other type of oil pump. PS too low of volume - the parts that move the oil are a LOT smaller. Peterson at $700 a pump, wow. I've thought about the EJ swap. If I had that power, I'd end up using it, and breaking other NLA parts. Plus it is a ton of work, not that that would stop me... How much longer will even EJ parts be around? I wouldn't want to do the upgrade for that reason, only to have them go NLA in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) Going to be a very long time before EJ parts go NLA. You can buy an oil pump for a 2019 STI and bolt it onto a 1990 EJ22. Just for example. You have 30 years of compatible parts. Compared to 10 on the EA82, and only 5 on the EA81. And the swap is not that hard. Not even nearly "a ton of work". With the swap parts commercially available now like adapter plates, etc. It's actually rather easy. The *why* is the question. Just buy a car that already has it like a Legacy or Forester. They do literally everything better and easier. I don't understand how people even stand driving the EA's. I drive the wife's 2001 OBW and am honestly terrified half the time I'm going to get run over in it. I guess I'm just spoiled by 1980's Chevy Small Block performance . GD Edited December 24, 2018 by GeneralDisorder 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YnotDIY Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 @GeneralDisorder the body style of the EA82 is so much better than the bubbled out legacy or forester. Loyale, GL, DL, are all much better looking IMO. I'd do an EJ swap just to keep the EA body. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyeights Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) It is possible. My 1992 Loyale is mostly made of Legacy and Impreza parts. It's a nice daily driver. I did just order spare clutch and throttle cables from Subaru for it though Edited December 24, 2018 by Crazyeights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Good to know the EJs are not going anywhere. Why EA? in no particular order, and not complete... Now that I have passed the 25 year mark, I will not deal with another car newer than 25 years old, just to avoid emissions hassles. For whatever reason, I just always have those crop up when I am already crazy busy. SO done with that. I never had an older / original Legacy, but we did have an 01 Forester for my wife. I could out maneuver it with my EA wagons, and all the newer versions are even bigger. Ok, didn't have to do the timing belts as often, but the DIY cost was nearly 5 times higher. Both of us can tell where the EA is on the road & parking a lot better than with the newer rounded cars. I can get bigger things into the back of my EA wagon than any of the newer models I've checked. Not by a lot, but a few items, it mattered. Do not want AWD forcing me to always run 4 identically worn tires. Bigger tires are more $ also, so not interested. I've also added lighting to my wife's Foresters, and now Impreza. [We replaced her 09Forester with an 09 Impreza recently, as she could not get used to the bigger rounder shape. Horrible time parking, etc.] What a PITA! all the wiring is hidden, even under the hood. Even though I am an electronics engineer [or maybe because I am one...] I don't want MORE computers to maintain and deal with in my vehicles. One for the ECU is ok, but that's enough. I don't drive tons of miles a year. I know the EA and have acquired or made all the tools I need to do nearly everything with them. Don't need to start over. It's now also just one of my hobby things - see how long I can keep running them. Because I can. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I feel ya. That's why I'm rocking 80's GM technology. Simple, reliable, and I can get parts easily. I have a bluetooth adapter and an android app for my 86 Trans Am. Just the one computer for the TPI injection. GD 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I’m with DaveT on all those points except the EA comments. EJ the EA chassis and enjoy! Soooo much better than the EA82 ever was and I’ve not ever leaked as much oil since! The only lifter tick I get now is when I’m near due for an oil change and the oil level is near the bottom of the low mark. Love the L with the sort of power it should’ve had from the factory! Cheers Bennie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagons Posted December 25, 2018 Author Share Posted December 25, 2018 @GeneralDisorder I love my EA82 wagon but I definitely hate the fact that I have to search for tailights (kids like to drop and lean bikes on them) And all other parts for the matter. I too drive Chevrolets. I have an 1987 Suburban and a 1982 1500 with a utility bed. Just recently the suburban broke a power steering mount bracket. Took the pump and bracket off my 82 which is getting a transmission and was driving within a couple hours. I love EJs because they are torquey, and like an SBC parts interchange over 15 years. This is why I have given up in the EA82 engine. I am looking for a swap, but thanks to Scott @ SJR we can still drive our EA82 with a Weber carb on an EJ! Simple and still seems like it came from the factory, minus crossmember drop and lift to clear the hood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkyboy Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Man i hope my ea82t has the factory oil pump, are those rebuildable? I do want to enjoy my 1.8 as long as possible before doing another ej22 swap. She only has 100,000 miles on her! But...I have an ej22 ready for something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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