WhiskeyBravo Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I was driving home from the auto parts store, waiting more money, and as i came up to a light came to a complete stop my brat died. Then it was a crank no start, got it out of the road and checked the basics to see if something had just rattled loose. She was getting fuel, no plug wires were loose. (Couldn't verify spark with just myself) After a new more hopeful tried to start to no avail I let her sit for a few minutes and like magic she started right up and ran like nothing was ever wrong. This happened again about 5 minutes later. And several other times, while accelerating, decelerating and even just holding steady at 2k rpm then would just back to life. However on the last time she blew the fuse for the regulator. (When I got it, replaced the fuseable links for a fuse block) I got her with 116k miles and did a tune up then, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, etc.. Now has 133k on it Anyone have any ideas? From what I've been able to find could be an ignition module issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pksjeep Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Sometimes coils stop working when they get worm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I’d replace the igniter and the coil. A dead coil will kill the igniter. Ask me how I know... Cheers Bennie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyBravo Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 I put a new coil in and now she won't fire up at all even if I hook up the old one again. I have spark going into the disty but I got nothing at the plugs. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Igniter module is dead. Replace with known good one or be one. Check your fuses too, just to be sure you’re not chasing your tail for no reason Cheers Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyBravo Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 I got a new one from O'Rileys threw it in and I got no spark anywhere, I figured it was just a lemon so I got one off of rock auto so we'll see in a few days if that fixed it. Thanks for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee2 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Quote I have spark going into the disty but I got nothing at the plugs. Is the rotor turning when you crank the engine ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyBravo Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Yes it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptoe Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Order a 'small engine' spark tester - looks like a spark plug but with an alligator style clip spot welded to it. One person spark tests become easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptoe Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) Measured or checked to see if ignition on voltage can be found at coils positive terminal? If no ignition power you can Hotwire it ...connect battery pos to coil positive then while this connection is there try cranking It is behaving like a module on its last legs While you wait for parts to arrive maybe just try illogical things such as clean up mating surfaces of earth and power contacts at battery and body/ engine block Tell us how why what your "fuse block" is that you replaced the FL's with? Edited January 18, 2019 by Steptoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Also check the continality of the wires from the coil to the module to ensure there’s not a break in the wire. Cheers Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyBravo Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 2:27 PM, Steptoe said: While you wait for parts to arrive maybe just try illogical things such as clean up mating surfaces of earth and power contacts at battery and body/ engine block Tell us how why what your "fuse block" is that you replaced the FL's with? I've cleaned up all that I've seen as far as grounds go, as far my my "fuse block" here's that: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyBravo Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 Update: New coil and ICM came in today, installed them annndd crank no start. The old man is convinced it's an ECM issue cause back in the day he had a similar issue on his old GL which replacing that had fixed. The only problem with that is I can't for the life of me find where that thing is at. Some people say near the stearing colum but didn't see anything there and there's nothing on the passenger side that I can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee2 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 8:55 PM, WhiskeyBravo said: After a new more hopeful tried to start to no avail I let her sit for a few minutes and like magic she started right up and ran like nothing was ever wrong. This happened again about 5 minutes later. And several other times, while accelerating, decelerating and even just holding steady at 2k rpm then would just back to life. A failing fuel pump can also produce this behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 ECM meaning engine control module, such as an ECU?? Your BRAT won’t have one. The other thing to check is the fuel cut solenoid is working. Can you hear the fuel pump running just after you stop cranking the engine with the starter? If not, this is part of the issue. But it also needs a reference signal from the coil. Cheers Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyBravo Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 19 hours ago, el_freddo said: ECM meaning engine control module, such as an ECU?? Your BRAT won’t have one. The other thing to check is the fuel cut solenoid is working. Can you hear the fuel pump running just after you stop cranking the engine with the starter? If not, this is part of the issue. But it also needs a reference signal from the coil. Cheers Bennie That's what I had thought. Regardless I checked the basics and the new cap was missing the button that makes contact with the rotor. So I took it out of the old cap and got her running. Thanks for the help! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptoe Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Ya what? Carbon brush missing from new cap? That could be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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