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Talkeetna; the offroad 5 lug 85 wagon.


AKghandi
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Well I have been roo less for a while now and the itch just wouldn't go away, no matter how many shot of penicillin I got.

So I went ahead an bought a pile of roo for a few hundred dollars.

Talkeetna is an ugly as hell 85 ea82 GL wagon. 5 speed dual range manual everything, even steering. though it has power mirrors...

Sadly I dont have any pics of it right now. but I do have a pic of a previous parts donor.

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this was an 88 xt6. it was a project that didnt work out, the rust was just way too bad. so I pulled all the 5 lug parts and scrapped it.

 

When I had the xt6 I bought a bunch of parts. a bunch. and I have just been sitting on these parts with nothing to do with them.

Until now.

parts I have;

Full 5 lug/ rear disc parts

2 new  02 outback front strut/spring assembly's.

front  86 accord springs new

front 94 4runner struts new

all new brake pads

all new brake hoses

4 rotors which are within spec to be turned.

 

my plan for now is to fix a few things then clean the car, and then add all the parts I have to make a hopefully decent offroad rig. I dont know of anyone who has done a lifted 5 lug on a wagon before so hopefully my educated guesses on lift height will work. I do have what appear to be new legacy front struts if the outbacks lift it too much. I know how much the accord/4runner setup will lift the rear.

My hope is that I will end up with a stiffer suspension that can actually add negative camber in the front so the front wheels dont \ = / when I accelerate.

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Nice one Akg! I’ll be looking forward to some pics of the wagon. 

The 5 stud pattern has little to do with the lift other than the strut length in the front end. About ten years ago it was quite a common conversion on lifted L’s over here in Oz when crossbred performance were building bolt on kits for the 5 stud and bigger brake swap. 

Sounds like it’ll be a sweet setup once you’re done. 

Will you go for an EJ22 swap too? 

Cheers 

Bennie

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Got a chance to pull her into the shop and get a few issues sorted out. First was no heater blower, turned out to be the relay, swapped it with the rear defrost relay for now.

Second the car overheated just after I got it, the fan switch in the radiator had a bad connection and the fan was hitting the radiator a bit. I cleaned the connections and spaced the fan out some, problem solved.

Lastly it would start like it had a dead battery even with a good battery and a jump. The positive cable end at the starter was really bad, the washer under the nut turned to dust. I cleaned it all up and she spins over perfect.

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Shes rusty but atleast it still has rear wheel arches!.. for now.

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Next up is a full detail, the interior is filthy. then I'll start on the brakes and suspension upgrades.

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Today I got the front end put together. I ran into a few minor snags but, it all worked out more or less how I planned.

Only real issues were; changing the top hat on the outback struts, and opening up the strut towers to make room for the larger struts.

 

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These wheels and tires are only temporary, they are too big.

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more positive camber than I wanted but I have lots of room to adjust via elongating the top hole on the strut.

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You can see the axle hanging down, need to order the correct axles soon.

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next weekend I will tackle the rear, should go much smoother.

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Ran into a few more minor issues but overall my plan worked exactly how I wanted.

 

First of all, 93 fwd impreza axles DO NOT WORK. they are too long. in a lowered application where the hub would be further out they may work.

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getting the rear struts together was.. interesting. the coils on the accord springs are too tight to use a normal spring compressor.

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there she sits. no spacers no crossmember drop and no positive camber.

 

still need to bleed the brakes and sort out the front axles. figured out what combination works i just gotta order a couple more.

 

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7 hours ago, el_freddo said:

I’ll be interested to see how often you chew out CV shafts without a subframe drop. I’m guessing you’re permanent front wheel drive and not AWD? 

Looks mint. They should’ve come from the factory like this! 

Cheers 

Bennie

its a dual range trans so 2wd/4wd. you know, Im not sure how well the cv's will last. i think the suspension geometry being more on par with stock should help.

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Well, after a nice slumber Talkeetna rides again! I had her sitting in storage waiting for her time to shine. cant believe its been almost 2 years, wild.

 

Anyways She has been pulled out and wheels and tires fitted, front fenders trimmed, and the interior was given a first round of cleaning.

Next up is actually getting the front CV situation sorted. After much thought and a AHA! moment I know what needs to be done. The front control arms need to be lengthened somewhere around an inch or so. the front track width does not match the rear. and that will sort out a couple issues I have so far.

I have been driving it RWD for the last few days and man its a blast, the suspension on this thing is killer, you cant feel curbs when you drive off them, its like they arent there.

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And here she is next to my other rig, a 1991 astro van  awd with 6" lift and 31s, 2 speed tcase and winch. with awning and a bed.

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On 12/30/2019 at 5:27 AM, AKghandi said:

Ran into a few more minor issues but overall my plan worked exactly how I wanted.

 

First of all, 93 fwd impreza axles DO NOT WORK. they are too long. in a lowered application where the hub would be further out they may work.

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getting the rear struts together was.. interesting. the coils on the accord springs are too tight to use a normal spring compressor.

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there she sits. no spacers no crossmember drop and no positive camber.

 

still need to bleed the brakes and sort out the front axles. figured out what combination works i just gotta order a couple more.

 

About axles. I made custom arms with +20 mm length.

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On 10/9/2021 at 9:18 PM, nismoваня said:

About axles. I made custom arms with +20 mm length.

Thats exactly what I was thinking I'd need. I am glad to see someone else has done this before. As soon as I get some more free time I'm going to go ahead and lengthen them. I'll probably just go an inch to make life simple for me. a few extra mm shouldn't hurt anything.

 small update, she got new shoes. some "lightly" used 235/75r15 BFG K02. if you're wondering why you see light under that back tire, its not a camber issue. these tires came off a old ford with a bad alignment so theres some uneven wear on 2 of them, i mean hey they were free.

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Got the control arms and radius rods extended. lengthened the control arms, 1" and the radius rods 3/4" its not pretty, but its strong.

Now the CV axles fit and work as they should.  4X4!! Though I did have to ditch the inner wheel seal in the knuckle.

 

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its gunna hold till it doesnt!!. and yeah thats a chunk of leaf spring welded to the bottom of the arm.

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On 12/2/2019 at 2:56 PM, AKghandi said:

 

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this was an 88 xt6. it was a project that didnt work out, the rust was just way too bad. so I pulled all the 5 lug parts and scrapped it.

Hi. How much does it cost? I mean 5 lug rear hubs from xt6. Now I have one more LEONE for project and need this parts, but it is very rear in Russia. Think about buying it overseas. 

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