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They're pretty good tires... better than studded. I've got them on my Porsche and it does pretty well in snow. There may be a few better snow tires out there though. I've heard very good things about the Yokohama Guardex.

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I guess I am wanting a white letter tire, with a good looking appearance, sporty, and good for off road and snow. Is this going to fill all these? IF not anybody know what might?

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NO WAY!!! Blizzaks are GREAT snow tires, but lousy for year-round driving(not to mention too expensive). I'd try TireRack(.com) if you want some, but remember, everything is a compromise. If you don't want to change tires in the winter, you're probably better off with a decent set of 40K mile tires. The tread patterns tend to be better suited to mud/snow than on higher mileage tires(i learned that the hard way). I might try something else on my sedan(just to be fair), but if I don't like them as well, I'll sell 'em and buy another set off Blizzaks.

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Reoff, I saw on your web site that you use Cooper Lifeliner Classics when not running the Blizzaks. Would you buy them again or something else? I'm tire shopping myself and have to say that the tirerack.com website is good for collecting info, but beware that their reviews and recommendations can be as biased as at any retailer. Educate thyself being the bottom line. Shawn, I haven't been able to find any white letter tires much less a wonder tire that does everything very well. If you find either, please let us all know. I have heard that some think the Michelin Alpin snow tire is about as good as Blizzaks. Any one care to comment? Here are the tires that I have sort of narrowed things down to. Any feed back from users of these treads would be appreciated. Other suggestions??? Cooper Lifeliner Classic II (approx $50-60/ea) <A HREF=http://www.coopertires.com/tire_locator/tiredata.asp?tireID=29 >http://www.coopertires.com/tire_locator/tiredata.asp?tireID=29 </A> Cooper Sportmaster GLT (approx $50-60/ea) <A HREF=http://www.coopertires.com/tire_locator/tiredata.asp?tireID=32 >http://www.coopertires.com/tire_locator/tiredata.asp?tireID=32 </A> Gajah Tunggal GTR-378 (about $30/each) I had these tires- after Geoffrey and before someone stole them from me. Nice tire. Great price. Les Schwabb sells them here. <A HREF=http://www.gt-tires.com/GTR378.htm >http://www.gt-tires.com/GTR378.htm </A> Michelin X-Metric ($48/ea include mt. & bal. ONLY available at Costco) I put these on my girlfriend's car and they are great in wet and dry. Snow untested. Michelin RainForce MX4 (discount tire will match the price costco price of x-metric) <A HREF=http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirebrand_f.html >http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirebrand_f.html </A> Siping? What does the collective wisdom think? Worth it? Pros: Improved wet and dry handling? Cooler operation? Longer Wear? Cons: Gravel roads chew them up faster?

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Guest richierich

I had it done to one of my wagons when I put new tires on it and I could not tell the difference. If it is so great then why don't the manufacters do it from the factory?

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Guest GeoffreyR

I wasn't very impressed with Reoff's Cooper tires. I thought the Gajah Tunggals were better... But the best that I've had so far are the Yokohama GS-4's on my XT.

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I didn't see the GS-4's on the Yoko web site, so maybe they've changed model names? Is it a wonder tire for all seasons or a go fast street tire? When I searched, there sure were a lot of referances to that tire on honda tweeker sites. Guess I'll just have to see that new car of yours and check out the tires. Now that Yoko SuperDigger M/T...now that's what I need. I liked the Gajah's and will most likely go for more since they are cheaper and I still have two that weren't stolen. Also, my offroad adventure last weekend made me realize that having two spares on board is a real good idea if going solo. At least the way I drive.

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I'm VERY happy with my tires. I've had them for about 10K miles. They don't show any signs of wear yet. The reason Geoff wasn't impressed had nothing to do with the tires. The problem is my allignment. The idiots I took it to have been unable to get it right. I'll address that problem later. But as far as a good all-around tire, I like them. I took it through a snow storm in Flagstaff, AZ just after I put them on, and didn't have any trouble at all. They aren't Blizzaks, but not bad either. I bought them because I kept adding up the cost of 2 new tires every year(25,000+ mi/yr), and decided it would be cheaper just to buy a set of 80K tires in the first place. I think it was a good choice. Like most Coopers, they're VERY durable(i'm not very nice to my tires).

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Well one thing going for the Coopers is that they are supposedly made in the USA- wow what an idea! Whereas the Gahahs are Indonesian. Maybe the Indonesian economy could use all the help it can get, but they aren't known for having great working conditions and being nice to the evironment either. Also, for whatever it's worth, I've heard that Michelin is now part of the BFGoodrich corporation. Oh boy, another merger.

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I'm going to be putting Dunlop SP20's on my brat. Something cheap, all season, but with half-way decent ratings. Anything should be better than the Sears Guardsman 40's that are on the brat now...

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Guest GeoffreyR

You got it turned around. :) BF Goodrich tires got bought by Michelin. BF Goodrich no longer does tires. Or just about anything they used to do. They sold their names with a bunch of their divisions, but BF Goodrich ONLY does Airframe services now (airplane repair and modification, with UPS and Southwest Airlines being their 2 biggest clients). And they do that at their Paine Field location. (I'm one of the three officially contracted technicians from CompUSA that repairs their printers... I have never seen more abused printers in my life, but that's another story)

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Oops, hey I just repeated what the tire tech told me and didn't question it because I knew BFG also did airframe service at Paine Field as you said. Guess I ought to listen to my own advice about not believing everything they tell ya' at tire stores! What? You mean a rivet gun is not a printer repair tool?

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