eagleb Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 My 96 outback seems to lag in 3rd gear. Driving from the Canyon Rd exit to highway 26 on 217 in beaverton (a long incline on the highway), i needed to accelerate relatively quick to merge. It shifted down from Overdrive, but that didn't seem to give enough power, then it shifted down again (up to 3500-4000 rpm) somewhat abruptly, and as it got up to speed and shifted back up, the car would shudder when I stepped on the accelerator. This problem stopped when I sped up again and got onto more level highway. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Can you try this by shifting manually? When was the last time the fluid was changed? nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 My 96 outback seems to lag in 3rd gear. Driving from the Canyon Rd exit to highway 26 on 217 in beaverton (a long incline on the highway), i needed to accelerate relatively quick to merge. It shifted down from Overdrive, but that didn't seem to give enough power, then it shifted down again (up to 3500-4000 rpm) somewhat abruptly, and as it got up to speed and shifted back up, the car would shudder when I stepped on the accelerator. This problem stopped when I sped up again and got onto more level highway. Any ideas? Lack of power and shuddering under power suggests a misfire under load. When's the last time you've service the plugs and/or wires? I 'spose the coil-pack on it's way out could cause that too. **** ******! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Most tranny problems are actually engine related. When was the last time the car got a tune up? Didi you notice a puff of black smoke out of the car during this scenario? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleb Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 I got a tune up a few weeks ago, every once in a while the check engine light comes on with a cylinder 4 misfire code. But the last time this happened, no check engine light came on. I haven't noticed any black smoke, and I don't know when the fluid was last changed. I bought the car from a dealer in january. I despise gremlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Flush the tranny just because. If the only thing your getting is a misfire code and nothing else, can be a sticky fuel injector, bad ignition cable, or a cracked coil tower. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 This is a tough one, wouldn't hurt to have several things checked. I'd say possible clogged cat converter (especially if the problem is more likely after the car is warmed up) possible fuel starvation too I guess. maybe bad plug wires? carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 clogged cat would be all the time at the same rpm, he says once the car downshifts it goes. A clogged cat acts a s a restriction and would also do it on level ground. If the tranny has never been serviced, it should be done. i still think its a igniton/fuel issue, nothing with starvation, more of a sensor issue. If it was fuel starvation he would have the reverse problem, as the revs increased, the demand for fuel increases. Since it does go once it downshifts, that can be ruled out. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Nipper's right. A 10 year old soob could need a sensor or 2 and new plug wires. More importantly, if the service history is unknown, you need to service most things anyway. The tranny flush makes a lot of sense. Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleb Posted April 23, 2006 Author Share Posted April 23, 2006 Just got the tranny serviced, new timing belt, water pump, and a couple other pieces of cheap insurance in the front end (all for $520). Car shifts a lot better, haven't had any noticeable lagging problems, but I've also been avoiding the long high speed inclines. CEL came on again with a cylinder 4 misfire, but it doesn't seem to be affecting the performance. Still can't figure out if the misfire is a computer glitch, a fuel injector, gas cap, or what. But I'm not gonna complain until it acts up again. Thanks for all the help so far, I'm sure I'll be needing more before too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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