REXSPEEDWORTHY Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I wanna remove my a/c condensor, it is non-functional and makes a squeek at certain rpms(very annoying). I wanna remove it, but it is also what tensions that belt, which looks to only control the a/c, fan and runs around a guide pully, which appears to control nothing. I would obviously have to buy a shorter belt, but how to tension it:confused: . Any Ideas? I think it could run fine without that belt altogether, but then I'd have to hook up the electric fan (which I don't use). What to do, what to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I wanna remove my a/c condensor, it is non-functional and makes a squeek at certain rpms(very annoying). I wanna remove it, but it is also what tensions that belt, which looks to only control the a/c, fan and runs around a guide pully, which appears to control nothing. I would obviously have to buy a shorter belt, but how to tension it:confused: . Any Ideas? I think it could run fine without that belt altogether, but then I'd have to hook up the electric fan (which I don't use). What to do, what to do? if your running the same engine as i am i litteraly just walked in from taking my ac stuff unter the hood out. the compressor, the radiator thing(blanking on name right now) all the lines and wiring( had to cut 2 blue and 1 black wire) and i shrink wrapped ity all until suimmer rolls around. its REALLY easy to take it out. but under the dash, it might be a little bit hard to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 this is what mine looked like when i got finished with it about 30 minutes ago: (and if any one really knows these cars, they will notice the small wire tuckage i have been working on ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostamojen Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I lucked out and found a junkyard motor without the A/C, so I took all the corresponding brackets required and used those. Yanked the rest of the A/C stuff out as well (it was non-functional) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXSPEEDWORTHY Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 this is what mine looked like when i got finished with it about 30 minutes ago: (and if any one really knows these cars, they will notice the small wire tuckage i have been working on ) So do you not use that belt at all? I don't want to use my electric fan, cause I had to wire it with a switch, for something was wrong with it??? I like the belt driven fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 So do you not use that belt at all?I don't want to use my electric fan, cause I had to wire it with a switch, for something was wrong with it??? I like the belt driven fan. oh, well with the belt driven fan, thats a different story. the easiest thing to do is to do this: wire your electric fan up to your coil. you wont have to worry about switches, it turns off when the car is off and uses very little power. plus the belt driven fan uses more power from the engine(i believe) than this way does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXSPEEDWORTHY Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 oh, well with the belt driven fan, thats a different story. the easiest thing to do is to do this: wire your electric fan up to your coil. you wont have to worry about switches, it turns off when the car is off and uses very little power. plus the belt driven fan uses more power from the engine(i believe) than this way does hummm, I may just do that. Thanks for the Idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARU3 Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 I have an original, "no ac" bracket for your alternator. It's comprises 2 pieces, the mount and the tensioner bar. From an EA71. Take the heavy compressor mount completely off the car! $10 Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXSPEEDWORTHY Posted January 20, 2007 Author Share Posted January 20, 2007 I have an original, "no ac" bracket for your alternator. It's comprises 2 pieces, the mount and the tensioner bar. From an EA71. Take the heavy compressor mount completely off the car! $10 Todd Can you post a pic of it? My sister and her husband are moving to Dallas next week!! How's your weather these days?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARU3 Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Can you post a pic of it? My sister and her husband are moving to Dallas next week!! How's your weather these days?? Rainy and miserable 30s-40s Had ice last week. I'll get a pic. Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARU3 Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Here's a pic of the bracket. Todd http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/photos/data/500/medium/SANY0687.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXSPEEDWORTHY Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 I don't think that is what I need. I don't see how it would fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARU3 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 It's a stock Subaru alternator holder. Nothing complicated. It was used on all NO AC EA71s and EA81s. Here's a graphic to help you. Todd [/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXSPEEDWORTHY Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 It's a stock Subaru alternator holder. Nothing complicated. It was used on all NO AC EA71s and EA81s. Here's a graphic to help you. Todd On my car the alternator is powered by the inner belt, along with the water pump. The outer belt, powers only the A/C and belt driven fan. . Are we talking about the same belt? BTW. I can't see diagram:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARU3 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Try again...the site is messing up. The pics should be there. Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXSPEEDWORTHY Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 ok, see diagram now. Looks like it's missing the outer belt. It would appear my crank pulley is different, for mine has two grooves for belts, the inner, which looks like your photo, and an outer one isn't pictured at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARU3 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 When AC is added and additional pulley/groove is added to the stock one, or a new pulley with 2 grooves is added. I have the stock pulley if you need it. (1 groove) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARU3 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 If you remove the AC, you don't need the outer pulley anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXSPEEDWORTHY Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 I then don't see how the belt driven fan will work? I wouldn't need what you have if I go without the outer belt and used electric fan. I don't need what you have in other words. Or I just confused:confused: Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the help, but I'm gonna just use the idle pully and make slots on the bracket where it bolts on, so I can adjust tension that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARU3 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I thought you were going with just the electric fan. The BRAT came with a belt driven fan, with or without AC. The AC bracket for the compressor was added on importation to the states. It reconfigured the belt/fan set up. So, if you want NO belt driven fan and just a stock configuration, you can use my bracket and my stock one groove pulley. Otherwise, just work it however you want. Hope this helps. Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXSPEEDWORTHY Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 I thought you were going with just the electric fan. The BRAT came with a belt driven fan, with or without AC. The AC bracket for the compressor was added on importation to the states. It reconfigured the belt/fan set up. So, if you want NO belt driven fan and just a stock configuration, you can use my bracket and my stock one groove pulley. Otherwise, just work it however you want. Hope this helps. Todd Thanks, I understand now. I can't find an Idler pully, so I bought a random pully and bolt and washers to fab my own. I will post pics when the carnage is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXSPEEDWORTHY Posted January 31, 2007 Author Share Posted January 31, 2007 It's done, not pretty, but done:lol: OK, so I could use another bolt, and not the swingset bolt, gotta find one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARU3 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Well, it looks like it will work! Compressor gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milemaker13 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Hey Speedworthy, Not to nag, and I know you said you need new bolts, but your washers are placed wrong. Each bolt should have 2 washers. One flat (regular) washer on the bottom, and the lock (split ring) washer on the top. The split washer goes up against the bolt head, not the bracket. Look around the engine, check out other bolts and washers, you'll see. Sorry, just trying to help. Your setup will loosen very quickly with the engines vibration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXSPEEDWORTHY Posted February 1, 2007 Author Share Posted February 1, 2007 Hey Speedworthy,Not to nag, and I know you said you need new bolts, but your washers are placed wrong. Each bolt should have 2 washers. One flat (regular) washer on the bottom, and the lock (split ring) washer on the top. The split washer goes up against the bolt head, not the bracket. Look around the engine, check out other bolts and washers, you'll see. Sorry, just trying to help. Your setup will loosen very quickly with the engines vibration. Thank you, yes, I do need to make a trip to the hardware store:lol: The one where I have the washers backwards, the bolt would go through the lock washer, so I put it second. It only powers the fan, but really I would not have known it made a difference. I'll take all the advice I can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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