carfreak85 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 There is a ling story behind this that I won't go into. I would like to get some suggestions on how to remove an inch long peice of a pencil from an EA81 cylinder. Any creative ways this could be done? I'd like to avoid pulling the head if possible since the engine was just rebuilt, but if thats the only safe way to do it, so be it. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvexplorer Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 They sell grabbing tools. Has three or four prongs and is usually spring loaded. I'd imagine that it'd work pretty well, otherwise a magnet if the pencil still has the metal ring with the eraser. One that you can drop down there attached to a string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Stab it with an ice pick (awl). Flashlight time. Drink two beers before starting - it may take marginally longer, but you won't be tempted to offer any small animals to the crankshaft gods in a late night cerimony. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Shop vac? May take several tries, turning it on and off till it makes it thru the hole. But c'mon, tell us how it got in there:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Just turn the car upside down! Oh wait, that might cause more problems than it would solve... I'm curious too. And I promise I won't laugh. Too hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 My sister had a piece of spark plug fall into her 2L Nissan motor (one of those twin spark ones) the vacuum cleaner didn't work, they finally got it out with a stick with blue-tack on it (she said it took 3 hours:eek:) It's only wood, just run the engine :-p it will burn out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrap487 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 do NOT use any kind of electric vacuum, you may blow it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffast Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 use a grabber tool, and you owe us a story on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 do NOT use any kind of electric vacuum, you may blow it up. Usually when the sparkplug is removed all fumes/gases will evaporate from the cylinder in a short time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casioqv Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Usually when the sparkplug is removed all fumes/gases will evaporate from the cylinder in a short time. I agree, a vacuum would be perfectly safe to use, but it would be entirely useless. You wouldn't be able to "suck" up the pencil, as there would be almost no airflow inside the cylinder, even with a very powerful vacuum. I would use a long needle, stab the pencil, and then pull it out. Don't crank the engine over at all, since the pencil could be splintered to peices, and impossible to remove if the piston is allowed to go to the top of it's stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milemaker13 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Now I'm curious too. I'd imagine you were checking cylinder depth, considering the new rebuild. I'd try the grabber tool, sounds good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosens Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Oh come on guys,he was trying to find TDC,you know that.:cool: If the pencil has the metal eraser holder then use a telescoping magnet. Should have seen me when I snapped the end of a springhook tool off into the combustion chamber.Yosemite Sam moment for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robm Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 The blue tack idea is a good one, but few people in North America know what it is. A suitable substitute might be chewing gum on a chopstick. Another possibility along the same lines might be to wrap some duct tape on the chopstick so the sticky side is out. Make it into a ball that will still go through the spark plug hole. The last thing you want is chunk of gum as well as a pencil sitting on top of the piston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northguy Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Your cylinder has "wood"? First, stop stroking it. To get rid of the wood, show it a picture of Rosanne Barr naked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milemaker13 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Your cylinder has "wood"? First, stop stroking it. To get rid of the wood, show it a picture of Rosanne Barr naked.[/QUOTWhy make the car sick? He just had it rebuilt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominical1 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 The blue tack idea is a good one, but few people in North America know what it is. A suitable substitute might be chewing gum on a chopstick. It is available here (at least on the west coast of Canada). I bought some a few years ago from an office supply store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosens Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 3M makes a killer double sided tape too.Not the white foam core one but the clear one.That rules.Wrap that on a thin rod of metal.Chopstick sounds good,but the thought of more wood snapping might make you lean towards metal. Come on G-man.We want to hear to story,and hear it end happily. Rosie O' will work too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 The blue tack idea is a good one, but few people in North America know what it is. Didn't think of that.. Blue tack is a rubbery sticky thing that you use to hold posters up on walls, wireless cameras under bumps and the like . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4x4_Welder Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 If it is splintered, make sure both valves are closed, and use a long blowgun to get all the pieces out. I use a piece of 1/4" brake tube on the end of my blowgun to get in there. Doesn't work so well on metal pieces, but should on wood- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 If you can get ahold of one of those snake cameras that sewer inspection companies use, that might be helpful. You might have to call a plumber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgd73 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Timing marks are great for that TDC stuff..you can even see the piston to aid in this. if it weren't for lead in the pencil, running it would be an interesting quick resolve. those 3 prong tools flexible seem to be a great idea as posted. or the car upside down, that is a great idea.. maybe water filling the cyl and get it to float to the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeshoup Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Toss a match into the cylinder and burn the pencil up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Some kind of tree eating animal/insect/mite should do the trick if all else fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 if it weren't for lead in the pencil I think you'll find they stopped using lead a lng time ago. It's all graphite now.. Just count yourself lucky this isn't on a EJ22, there plug holes are so bloody deep you would have to that the head off.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samneric Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Some kind of tree eating animal/insect/mite should do the trick if all else fails. Yeah, I can hack a chunk 'o 2x4 outa the Formosan colony in my structure and mail it ya in a Ziplock.... Just make sure you pop a NGK in the hole pretty sharpish after you drop a couple of the blighters in.... After all, they are vicious little buggers and you wouldn't want them having any ambitions on your beautiful wife's Mahogany I'd give 'em two hours before the pencil is saw dust and you can crank up your engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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