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80' BRAT Clutch/Brake Support
Posted 08 February 2010 - 09:50 AM
The BRAT is fairly clean, does have some cancer but mostly all the issues it has is from neglect and not so much abuse.
I noticed an issue with the clutch when I test drove it, several times, but had figured it was similar to problems I had had on my GL, (new cable and proper routing) so was not too worried. I put a couple K's on the car shaking it down and everything else seems to be in good shape, (less a noisy,incorrect? fuel pump) The engine seems much stronger than my GL and it is a fun lil ride I hope to refurbish into a reliable driver for my daughter when she starts high school in a few years.
I adjusted the cable at the tranny and was able to improve the clutch action for a period of time, but it always returned. Finally decided to pull the cable and see if it was the cable or routing or...?
What I found was that the "gusset" or "support" that the clutch/brake pivots attach to as well as where the clutch cable housing mounts to, has a crack which allows the support to fold or bend when the clutch pedal is pressed.
From what I can see this is just sheet metal, maybe galvanized??? and is spot welded in place.
Originally I thought I could make a backing plate from some real metal and bolt up from the opposite side that the cable housing and pivots attach. Yesterday I was going to start removing parts to affect the repair and noticed a "stamped", "raised" area, that would not let a backing plate sit flush against the support and decided to rethink the repair.
I have done lots of looking around here and other places but have not found any mention of similar issues so....hopefully some one will read this who knows what I am referring to and perhaps has experience or at least some ideas.
I will try and get some pics of the problem area today as well...
Posted 08 February 2010 - 02:12 PM
This is the backside of the gusset/support, and the raised or stamped area is apparent. Also the clutch pedal arm and cable can be seen mounted on the opposite side.
The next two pics show the mounting side and the crack where the cable housing mounts.
I have a little 110 wire feed but not sure just welding it will do. I can do the metal fab but not sure I have all the tools I would need to fab a perfect fit, and I would rather only do this once.
Opinions, ideas, thoughts.....???
Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:47 AM
Posted 09 February 2010 - 08:14 AM
I have no problem removing it and would prefer to do so, I was just not sure if some of those spot welds are actually holding it in place and that is what I wanted to avoid.
I hope to get it pulled down today so I can see more what is there.
Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:55 PM
Cranked the unit to min setting and got a bead or two on the rest of the crack and installed my stiffener.
It does work now but there is still an awe full lot of slop. The clutch pedal pivots freely, and the cable is free even after making the bend to the pedal if I unhook it from the clutch arm on the tranny....wondering if maybe the throwout bearing on the shaft is sticking because the pedal still has a lot of resistance.
It'll hold for now no more than I use or need it but I think I will go try to find another to pull and use as a jig to fab a new one. Mainly so I can see how the hell it comes out without learning the hard parts on a working rig.
Still hopin and open for ideas....
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