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97 Outback, valve job or short block?
Posted 12 May 2004 - 09:40 AM
Any advice?, should we write off our losses and get out of what I'm discovering is problematic engine, go ahead with the dealer recommended valve job (and run the risk of burning oil out the old rings), or go with the new block and valve job from the independent mechanic (who many people, though not all, are happy with).
It seems customary on the list to list the Suburus owned. I honestly can't remember them all, but my first was a brand new silver 79 DL 4wd SW, which I ran into the ground, put almost 200k on with only brake work and a new exhaust system. Since then it's been used ones that I buy for 2-5,000, drive for a few years, and then sell to college kids for a thousand or so. My wife's car is the first we spent so much on ($13,000) and by far has been the worst experience. Thanks for any thoughts on this situation.
Posted 12 May 2004 - 09:58 AM
What most likely happened is they didn't adjust the valves when the head gaskets were done and the exhaust valves are burnt. The dealer sounds incompetent. They should never send you on your way telling you that the MIL will go out by itself. They should identify the problem, fix it, then clear the code.
I would probably have a compression or leakdown test done before I replaced anything. If the compression is good I would have the valves adjusted and fix whatever is causing the MIL and the poor performance.
Posted 12 May 2004 - 05:50 PM
Posted 12 May 2004 - 06:01 PM
Of course it is going to burn some oil soon.
These 2.5s aren't the engine the old 2.2s were.
If I had that particular car I would either change the whole engine or sell the car.
Posted 12 May 2004 - 08:53 PM
If the transmission and the rest of the car is in good shape either have the independent tech rebuilt the heads on a new short block, as mentioned, or check the prices on a rebuilt engine from www.ccrengines.com. A rebuilt engine would probably buy you another 100,000+ mi out of the car.
If the tranny and the rest of the car isn't in good shape, I'd cut my losses and unload it fast.
Also, maybe I'm missing something, but why would an increase in compression after a valve job cause an engine to burn more oil??
Posted 12 May 2004 - 10:03 PM
Posted 13 May 2004 - 12:26 AM
This is a true tale of woe and mechanical incompetance.
He might have half a chance if he fitted a whole CCRNC engine new, hoses, radiator, and new sensors.
If he uses the same folks they will probably fit the engine upside down and charge him $8,000.
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