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tips for installing remote starter?
Posted 27 February 2001 - 03:51 PM
I've seen that several people on here have installed remote starters, so I was hoping maybe some of you could give me some tips.
My car's already got the factory keyless entry system and alarm, and I don't plan on replacing it. I just want to add a starter. On my Ford (with the factory keyless/alarm system), I used the output of the remote starter to trigger the wire that senses when the driver's door key tumbler is turned. That de-activated the alarm and allowed the starter to start the engine. Will this method work on my Subaru? And I've seen the posts about how the factory keyless remote won't unlock the doors if the remote starter is on. I can live with that, unless there's an easy fix to trick the factory system into staying on.
Thanks in advance,
Posted 27 February 2001 - 05:23 PM
You've got good questions and I remember that thread. Not sure of the answers here because it's been awhile and I've never attempted such a project, but you might find some of the manuals & pinout info on my website useful under the Keyless/Alarm section. Hope it helps.
Posted 27 February 2001 - 05:33 PM
Posted 27 February 2001 - 06:06 PM
All that is to say where locking is concerned the keyless module is pretty much an output-only device. You should be able to actually walk up to your car, arm it, then lock and unlock the doors several times with the key without the thing ever disarming or even responding.
There are a couple of wires noted "factory alarm arm" and "factory alarm disarm" for interface with the LSi (or in another vehicle, its traditional-style factory-installed alarm), but I think those are output-only as well. I had them disconnected once and they didn't seem to impact the behavior of the keyless module.
So I'm not sure how, from a wiring standpoint, to tell the module to disarm other than clicking the button on the remote. The only other thing I can think of is the defeat mechanism on the alarm, which will turn the thing off while it's blaring if you turn the key to the On position and push the programming switch. I suspect that the way that this works is to send some voltage-- something smaller than 12V, based on the gauge of the programming switch wire-- into the module from somewhere. Alternatively it could be connecting the module-side end of the programming switch to ground. Not sure which way it goes even though I knew what it was way back when.
So I don't know-- maybe if you could get the remote starter to duplicate the input of the On+switch thing you could get the alarm to disarm?
Oh yeah, and the reason the keyless won't unlock (or lock) with the remote starter on probably has to do with the fact that the locking feature is designed to be off when it's disarmed *and* the key is in the On position. There is probably a way to defeat this via a wiring tweak but I'd have to think about it to figure out if/how it's possible.
Posted 27 February 2001 - 09:54 PM
96 Legacy 5spd
Posted 28 February 2001 - 12:59 AM
A long time ago, in the early 80's, a friend's neighbor left his Honda sitting unattended, running, out of gear, with a 3-year old in the car. He had forgotten something in the house and only needed to run in for a minute. The 3-year old, in typical curiosity, managed to disengage the brake, and the car rolled down the driveway, across the street, and down through the front lawn of my friend's brand new house. The next thing he knew there was a terrific crash and the rear end of a Honda and a pile of bricks were sitting where his living room sofa used to be. Fortunately, the child was not injured, and my friend's wife had just gotten up from a nap on the sofa moments before the accident. Never leave a manual transmission out of gear!
Posted 28 February 2001 - 09:25 AM
Only yesterday I realized that my alarm system was in "valet mode", which meant that my key fob was only locking and unlocking the doors. It wasn't actually arming the system. So when I'd unlock the door with the key, I could get in and start the engine with no problem. That's because the alarm was never actually on. So this morning I put it in "regular alarm mode" and locked the doors with the remote, which armed the system. Then I unlocked the door with my key. And when I opened the door, the siren went off. So this confirms what Russ said about the door key not actually turning off the alarm.
So I'll have to get under the dash and play around with the wires. My original thought was that sending a pulse from the remote starter to the 'factory alarm disarm' wire going to the OEM alarm module would de-activate the alarm. But maybe that won't work. I suppose I could try sending the pulse from the remote starter to the 'door unlock' wire on the OEM module. I suppose that would disarm the alarm and allow me to start the engine.
Posted 28 February 2001 - 10:08 AM
Posted 28 February 2001 - 10:20 AM
Posted 28 February 2001 - 10:41 AM
So I don't know what I'll do. I guess I'll think about it some more...
Posted 28 February 2001 - 11:42 AM
So it looks like my idea of pulsing the "door unlock" wire won't disarm the system. The only other thing I can try is the "factory disarm" wire, which some people say doesn't do anything...
Another option: I suppose I could also rig up a circuit to turn the alarm system into "valet mode" when the remote starter is activated. That way the alarm would be active until the time when I press the "start" button. I don't know.... This is getting complicated....
Posted 28 February 2001 - 02:19 PM
Posted 01 March 2001 - 10:14 PM
Posted 02 March 2001 - 12:38 AM
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If it does not go to the remote starter, look in the alarm section and look for the CRIMESTOPPER CS2005 FM PAGING/ALARM SYSTEM/REMOTE START
Posted 02 March 2001 - 01:12 PM
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