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  1. I have owned 10 Subaru's since 1979. Most were made in Japan. 2 were not. Other than the VIN not starting with JF2 but with 4S3 , I couldn't tell the difference.

     

    YES they were DIFFERENT venicles, but most had a version of the EA engine , many EA25's and either 5 speed or 4EAT. Still could not tell the difference.

     

    Reliability and Dependability........ still couldn't tell the difference.

     

    Good luck with the new 17 Impreza on the Global Platform. I feel certain you also will not see a difference in Reliability and Dependability .

     

     

    thanks. Did you ever get extended warranties to hedge ? this year it is the first yr for a DI engine for one thing.

  2. '17 Impreza w/ Premium trim - CD and seats issues - any fixes?
    My son is scheduled to get a '17 Impreza w/ premium trim w/ eyesight soon, but he had a couple of non critical issues and I wondered if anyone had any ideas to correct them post purchase.

    1) no CD player ; he likes a CD player . Any way to connect a CD player to the sound system in case he has a book on CD or whatever else he might seek to listen to - whether subaru or 3rd party after purchase?

    2) the subie cloth seats were kind of uncomfortable he said - compared to the competing '17 Civic car . Any ideas or links to sites for leather or some other comfortable custom reupholstery , at least in the driver seat - whether w/ subaru or 3rd party?
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    in a couple of days, my son is planning on buying a new 2017 impreza premium trim w/ option 13 eyesight, Blind spot dection and rear traffic detection. the dealer will undoubtedly try to sell some kind of extended warranty; will mention how it is needed w/  all that fancy new imaging tech, I bet ( other dealers had already said this).

    What is the opinion of this forum on extended warranties w/ this 100 pct US made impreza and which just opened for production two mos ago with a 95 pct redesign of the '16 version? 

    Since this is not only not an incremental change over the previous design, it is a transcontinental and cultural change from japan to Lafayette , IN. There is adage to never buy the first yr of a new model yr. 95 pct change is close to that.

    the bigger (implied ) question here is also...

    what is the forum's opinion on the expected reliability of this new us made subie car? same as the ones made in japan?
     
    Also, can someone tell me if there are different new car warranties for this Impreza, subarua and non subaru ? I heard of different colors like gold or something, but the sales guy does nt give any details - i must talk to  the guy 'in the back room' when we are signing on the dotted line.
     
    any input on warranties wd be appreciated before we go to the back room.

     

  4. idic5,

     

    I live an hour from the Detroit/Windsor border on the Canadian border, and share much of the same winter driving conditions that you have.

     

    With a good set of winter tires subies are darn near crazy glued to the road if driven intelligently. You will be able to go where many others wouldn't dream to drive in winter weather, or heavy rain for that matter.

     

    As for reliability, I've owned 4 OutBacks,  including a 1997, a 2003, a 2007 and my present 2012. Warranty wise I have had one tailgate subie emblem, and one door speaker replaced. Service out of warranty has been for one rear wheel bearing, a tilt mechanism of one sunroof, and regular maintenance (brakes, wiper blades, oil & filter changes, tires, spark plugs, air filters, etc.), all of which I have done myself. That's it in 20 years of owning the four subies. They have been as reliable as any car could possibly be, in my experience. And I will be owning more of them in the future.

     

    I'm a backyard mechanic who has been in the backyard more than a few years, and I can say that these cars are easy to work on. Let the dealership handle the warranty work until it runs out, then find a good independent mechanic you can trust for anything beyond the warranty. As for parts cost, they are no more expensive than any other make, short of Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Porsche, Cadillac, etc., whose parts are like gold to buy.

     

    That said, everyone knows of someone who bought a car that nickeled and dimed them to bankruptcy, and ocassionally someone with a subie will have an issue outside of the norm, but these are rare. After all, something made of 35 000 parts will have something go wrong once in a while. Check the online comments from Consumer Reports who highly recommend Subaru products' reliabilty, as well as several other makes. They are about as trouble free as any car you could own. The best of luck with your new car purchase, whether it be the Imprezza or not!

     

    Hi and welcome,

    As this is a BRAND New car - '17 - then my 1st question is: How long do you plan on keeping it?

     

    If keeping it longer than the  length of the warranty, then your questions are valid. If not, then Why worry? :-)

     

    Maintenance can be done @ any shop - BUT YOU MUST> MUST KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS in case a warranty repair crops up. As stated above, it's on THEM to prove the service was inadequate, but the 'fight' is usually a pain.

     

    Personally, I prefer to have my maintenance done @ THE DEALERSHIP during the warranty period so there's no question as to the maintenance record. Yes, you'll pay more, but most shops offer discounts, specials, coupons.. etc. that can reduce costs.

     

    Subarus have shown to be near the top of the reliability charts for autos. 

     

    I don't have any specific data, but their increased growth - setting new records for sales every month/year - indicates they'll be around for awhile longer, which means parts will also be plentiful.....I've not read that the new models are any more to repair than other brands.

     

    Once the warranty ends, find a reputable Subie-specific shop (not necessarily a dealer) that you trust. Even if they're a few $$ more than the Backyard Joe Mechanic down the street -( EDIT: No offense to all of USmb that turn our own wrenches!), you'll usually get what you pay for.

     

    Last note...that maintenance record is like GOLD, IMHO. Keep it up to date, w/receipts and if you sell the car yourself it'll be a key selling point  - @ least it is w/me.

     

    GL,

    TD

     

    thanks for the answer. it helps. I assume my son wd want to keep it longer than the 3 yr warranty - after all arent subies supposed to last a long time?.

     

    Also, on this subject, what is the opinion off this forum on extended warranties w/ this US made impreza and which just opened for production two mos ago with a 95 pct redesign of the '16 version?  I might make a separate  thread on this

  5. You can go anywhere for maintenance - just keep records, but I'd even recommend doing that even if you're using a dealer.

     

    Not a big deal. Subaru's aren't rare enough to worry about. 100,000 impreza's. that's comparable with other models on the road and for the fewer numbers they probably also have fewer options, offerings, and changes.

     

    Some rural areas like the south and select other areas are prone to mechanics not wanting to work on certain vehicles, but you just find another mechanic.

     

    Maintenance costs are almost entirely dictated by YOU. Your maintenance competence and local service integrity. If you're terrible at comprehending service, finding good service people, it's very possible to get caught up in the marketing driven service industry. That happens across all shops - independent, dealer, big, small, any manufacturer.

     

    Ideally you have some capacity or an honest mechanic. Otherwise it's a roll of the dice no matter what you buy.

    Pretty routine to rack up thousands of dollars in maintenance when a car needs nothing or very simple service. I could share a few dozens stories but this thread would get too lengthy.

     

    Yes I have a trusted mech - his shop literally is my next door neighbor for 30 yrs. His guys even once manually pushd my previa in neutral to my house after some rtn maintenance so that I cd see the old fashioned OD flip to 100k. :) true car guys. Anywho, he said to me ' 'look for toyota, honda or a chevy cruze - parts are plentiful and easy to get'.'. But his partner also chimed in that he just bought a used outback w/ 38k miles on it. but obviously he has the knowledge . 

     

    thanks for the input

  6. idic5,

     

    I live an hour from the Detroit/Windsor border on the Canadian border, and share much of the same winter driving conditions that you have.

     

    With a good set of winter tires subies are darn near crazy glued to the road if driven intelligently. You will be able to go where many others wouldn't dream to drive in winter weather, or heavy rain for that matter.

     

    As for reliability, I've owned 4 OutBacks,  including a 1997, a 2003, a 2007 and my present 2012. Warranty wise I have had one tailgate subie emblem, and one door speaker replaced. Service out of warranty has been for one rear wheel bearing, a tilt mechanism of one sunroof, and regular maintenance (brakes, wiper blades, oil & filter changes, tires, spark plugs, air filters, etc.), all of which I have done myself. That's it in 20 years of owning the four subies. They have been as reliable as any car could possibly be, in my experience. And I will be owning more of them in the future.

     

    I'm a backyard mechanic who has been in the backyard more than a few years, and I can say that these cars are easy to work on. Let the dealership handle the warranty work until it runs out, then find a good independent mechanic you can trust for anything beyond the warranty. As for parts cost, they are no more expensive than any other make, short of Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Porsche, Cadillac, etc., whose parts are like gold to buy.

     

    That said, everyone knows of someone who bought a car that nickeled and dimed them to bankruptcy, and ocassionally someone with a subie will have an issue outside of the norm, but these are rare. After all, something made of 35 000 parts will have something go wrong once in a while. Check the online comments from Consumer Reports who highly recommend Subaru products' reliabilty, as well as several other makes. They are about as trouble free as any car you could own. The best of luck with your new car purchase, whether it be the Imprezza or not!

     

    thanks, you hit my questions....curiously, one of those cautionary opinions I mentioned was from my local  trusted and competent  independent mech of 30 years - who has serviced two toys and a honda of mine. He said 'look for toyota, honda or a chevy cruze - parts are plentiful and easy to get'. My wife wondered if something went down during a long road trip, wd someone be scratchin their heads.

     

    But I think you distinguished  that subies are not like audis  volvos bmers mercedes, even caddies where there is a lot of specialized parts and even tools to use to service them.

     

    I have one friend who has 2 outbacks and a forester and when she answered this question she said she goes to the dealer, which was no confidence building to me. I have never gone to a dealer for fixes - after going once and bein shocked at the exorbitan price for the price. I need to follow up w/ her ask her why she does nt go to the local guy in our town - my 30 yr trusted guy. 

     

    btw, this mech's partner had just bought a used outback w/ 38k on it. 

     

    WILL SUBIES RELIABILITY CONTINUE TO HOLD UP FOR THE IMPREZA 100 PCT MADE IN USA?

    The other part  of your reply I wanted to follow up on was a question on the continued reliability/track record of subies such as this Impreza which is now going to be made in the US, in INdiana. I am curious about this. Are there any other subies that have been 100 pct made in the usa? Are all the parts also usa parts or   where are they sourced, I wonder? There was a reason I changed from Ford which was in the shop more than on the road to toys (140k and 246k) and honda (so far my 100 pct tokyo cr-v  has 110k miles w/ only oil changes, knock wood).

     

    This wd be  my son's first car. He is seeking awd within a certain budget and impreza is the highest  mpg of any awd for his budget.

     

    EYESIGHT REQUIRE HIGHER COMPETENCIES?

    Finally, I am curious about  the rather impressive hi tech Eyesight which we ( he)  packaged in the Premium trimmed Impreza. This is a fricking moving computer .  So I wonder if any of these go down, does the mech have to be even MORE specially trained to handle this type of stuff?

     

    This of course is occurring in all cars now, and in a few yrs this will be all std ( '17 corollas have toy's version of eyesight standard in the base model!). I am not sure how this will play for the backyard mechs - maybe easier as the biggest deal is to find and replace the offending module  unit, I suspect?

  7. For a variety of reasons, we decided on a Subara impreza '17 premium w eyesight; put refundable $1k to hold it. wd be the first Suby for our family. But at least three people have offered cautionary opinions on problems of maintenance (competence) and parts cost and availablity due to the lower comparative volume of Suby relative to toy, honda, and gm. These are opnions basewd on what their common sense says, btw. W/o alot of suby cars on the road, presumably there wd be less competence of the workings of subarus, specially w/ the fancy computerized eyesight - goes these doubting thomases..

     

    Wd joe blow corner mech or jffy lube be ok for oil changes and the like?

     

    Or wd we always have to go to the subaru dealer for basic maintenace and certainly for anything bigger?

     

    Implied questions to this forum: 

     

    1) Where do you all get your maintenance done on you Soobies?

     

    2) Have you found the maintenance costs or the parts costs and availability ( and hence turnaround) to be bad?

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