Thx for the help, Ill try and get some pix this weekend when I go home. Rite now im going to school at oregon tech for mechanical engineering and the guy with the rail and shop is in another town so I dont have any pics yet. Also we are kinda locked into using atleast subaru splines and are making our own axles, we have moved the motor and tranny to the rear and are using the drive outputs from the tranny and not using the rear output, so it will be independent suspension. This should be a pretty sweet rail when its done, it has around 18" of travel on each corner w/ coilover shocks, plus an ej-20 with standalone ecu, garrett T03? turbo (cant remember what he bought), water injection, and a few other goodies I cant remember rite now.