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Marathon City, WI
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I repair what should have been scrap.
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1989 GL Wagon Dual-Range SPFI
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Poor idle after rapid deceleration
SuspiciousPizza replied to SuspiciousPizza's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
I'm sure with enough time they are serviceable. I'm not sure what the internals of the IAC actuator look like, it's definitely not meant to be taken apart. The entire valve is a part. You couldn't buy just the actuator even when they were available new. My guess is I'd "just" need to get a coil rewound for it. Something theoretically simple that in practice will prove to be anything but. The actuator I replaced tested okay. But I only tested it cold. The resistance changes as the coil heats up and maybe it was only out of spec when it warmed up? I'll be honest the only reason I was using that actuator was because it tested okay (so I thought) and it was the best looking. I was putting lipstick on a pig but it's still nice to see shiny parts on an old vehicle. :] -
Poor idle after rapid deceleration
SuspiciousPizza replied to SuspiciousPizza's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
Now the CEL comes and goes every now and then. I'm guessing it's an intermittent connection. I'll have to pull the engine harness and check it. If it's not that then I'll have to check the body harness and the connections. Wouldn't hurt to check my grounds too. :] -
Poor idle after rapid deceleration
SuspiciousPizza replied to SuspiciousPizza's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
It was my IAC valve. On my way home from work I finally got a CEL. Pulled the code and it was a code 34 for the IACV. I replaced the "solenoid" (turns out it's actually a bimetallic actuator that uses a heating coil) and it idles like a dream. Smooth as silk and the vacuum is rock steady, no excessive vacuum flutter on start up. :] -
Poor idle after rapid deceleration
SuspiciousPizza replied to SuspiciousPizza's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
I did not get around to messing with the IAC. I was helping a few friends with their cars. What about the idle adjustment? Maybe my idle is set too low and the computer has to overcompensate. Does anyone have any pointers on how to adjust the idle on an EA82 SPFI setup? Do I have to connect the test connector(s)? Disconnect the IAC? I only have the MPFI idle adjustment in my FSM. This throttle body is a junkyard unit. So the chances of the idle adjustment screw being off are high. :] -
SPFI Injector Differences
SuspiciousPizza replied to SuspiciousPizza's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
I bought the injector and once I got it I compared it side-by-side with a Loyale injector. They're the exact same. I vacuum sealed the injectors with desiccant packets. Hopefully they'll last until I need them. I've heard it's the moisture that'll corrode the coils and kill them. Are you asking about that weird horseshoe gasket? For installation I use a few dabs of silicone grease to hold the gasket into the throttle body then quickly flip the throttle body onto the intake. There's Walker brand throttle body gasket kits, I'd recommend those. You get every seal you'd need for a throttle body rebuild. I'd recommend a coolant system pressure test after you install a new gasket. I've learned my lesson on that one the hard way. :] -
Poor idle after rapid deceleration
SuspiciousPizza replied to SuspiciousPizza's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
I have not yet gotten around to messing with the IAC valve. I'll be doing some work on the car this weekend so I'll get to it then. The previous owner had spliced in some spade connectors on the IAC valve so the OEM connector was removed. Perhaps the valve was a junkyard/used unit that had the wires cut. Is it possible I just have the polarity flipped on the IAC and that's causing my issues? Will reversing to polarity damage anything? Perhaps the IAC solenoid. That mechanical portion of the valve was ultrasonic cleaned. Unless 3000 miles gummed up the valve that bad, I doubt it's a sticky valve. The issue is sporadic. Leading to me believe it's electrical. :] -
I've been searching for a new SPFI injector to have on hand when the the pearly gates come calling for my limited stock of used injectors. MPFI injectors are a dime a dozen but new SPFI injectors are more difficult to track down. The only actual new parts I can find are compatible with the Subaru P/N 16637AA000. However this only seems to be compatible with 1986 and maybe 1987 models. My car is an '89 model which calls for the P/N 16637AA010. Is there really any difference between the two? It doesn't list 16637AA010 as a supersession part number. But I'd have a hard time believing that Subaru would have one injector only work with a 1-2 year model range. That doesn't sound cost effective. Why would they change the injector? Different flow rate? Updated spray pattern? Maybe a different throttle body casting? The latter seems very cost ineffective. New molds, tooling, jigs, etc. The kicker is that 16637AA010 shows it's compatible through the entire SPFI production ('86-'94 here in the States). :]
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Poor idle after rapid deceleration
SuspiciousPizza replied to SuspiciousPizza's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
I'll check the IAC tonight. It's right out front and easy to access. If it's not carboned up I'll see if there's a resistance test or something I can do in the FSM. I have a few spares kicking around I could try if it comes to that. Also I did do a factory PCV reroute. I know the PCV was definitely sucking oil before I did this. I lost about 1/3 quart of oil over about 1300-1500 miles. I've checked my oil level recently (about 1500 miles since the reroute) and I haven't noticed any obvious loss of oil after doing the reroute. Then again my oil pump leaks so I'm unsure how much of the aforementioned oil loss was due to the oil pump leaks vs the PCV sucking oil. And my vacuum does begin to ever so slightly flutter above 3.5k-ish RPM. Less than 1inHg fluctuation but if you're looking for it, it is noticable. -
Poor idle after rapid deceleration
SuspiciousPizza replied to SuspiciousPizza's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
I'd sure hope it's not the alternator. I swapped in a new one maybe a year and a half ago. The car has always had a voltage flutter and differing fuel pump whine with the turn signals. After I did some electrical work it has gotten better and now drops approximately 1 volt with the turn signals whereas before it was maybe 3 volts or so. I can always check the alternator terminal connections and belt tension. It doesn't sound like the belts are slipping (I'm running both belts in the same pattern since I deleted my AC). PCV valve is a new OEM part I added when doing a full refurb of the engine. I tightened it with a flange wrench too and while I didn't torque it, it definitely felt tight. Sealing the threads would be an easy thing to do. The engine I have in the car now was sitting for a few decades so I do suspect one or more of the valve springs are weak from the valves sitting open for so long. I didn't replace the springs because I couldn't find a full set of inner and outer springs. I'm still in need of outers, I have a full set of inners. Perhaps the springs just don't respond well to rapid changes in RPM? Valves get a little float? My vacuum on cold start is typically 15inHg then as the engine idles for a minute or two it'll creep up to 20inHg while staying at the same RPM (set to 1500 when cold). If the engine is REALLY cold my cold start vacuum is typically in the 12-15inHg range and the creep to 20inHg may take a little longer. -
Poor idle after rapid deceleration
SuspiciousPizza replied to SuspiciousPizza's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
IAC is "new" a tested good unit that was cleaned and has a new gasket. I initially thought brake booster too. I could always swap in a booster vacuum hose to see if that works. However sometimes my vacuum will flutter with the blinking of my turn signals. My fuel pump will whine at a different tone with the turn signals and my voltage gauge will dip with the turn signals as well. This makes me believe it's a failing fuel pump. In addition to the pump being fairly noisy in general. I do have a spare brake booster if it ever comes to that. Probably wouldn't hurt to swap that in within the coming warmer months. Vacuum doesn't seem to change when I'm on the brakes at a red light. I'd think if it was a brake booster, I'd be seeing vacuum fluttering anytime I apply the brakes and that's not happening. Only on rapid deceleration. I've also noticed the idle issue is more common on downhill slopes (when the front of the car is lower than the rear). Maybe this has to do with the fuel in the tank sloshing forward and it's causing some issue with the fuel pump. -
'89 GL SPFI 5DRMT. When I have to rapidly decelerate, for instance when a light turns yellow or I get cut off, when I get to a crawling pace or a complete stop my idle is very poor. It'll dip down to 250 RPM and my vacuum will flutter wildly within a 5-8 inHg range. If I give it a little throttle and hold it slightly above idle RPM for a few seconds it quickly subsides. I have no issue with throttle response when I'm having these idle issues. The engine responds to very slight throttle input. It starts cold just fine unless the car was sitting outside overnight in subzero temps, then getting it started can take a few minutes and words of affirmation. Any ideas? I'm thinking it's a failing fuel pump or maybe an injector in need of a cleaning. My fuel pump is quite noisy. I have replaced my fuel filter and the fuel that came out of the old filter wasn't dirty. I just haven't gotten the motivation to diagnose anything in this winter weather. Ideally if it is a fuel pump, I'd like to replace it when I do my post-winter rust inspections and general maintenance in the spring. Thanks :]
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I'm running DRW bushing as well. I forget what the factory bushing durometer is but if I remember correctly the DRW bushing are slightly stiffer. I make it a habit to relube the bushing every spring/summer when I descale and treat the rust that forms during the winter. May be overkill but I'm going for longevity. I'm using good quality KYB strut mounts. Took a lot of searching to find them but I trust them more than the typical chinesium parts.
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Tires are typically ran at the stock 30-31 PSI. Granted I am on the factory 13" wheels. If I did a 5-lug conversion and got some 15" wheels under it, the ride would improve. I also am running stiffer poly bushings and all my rubber components are less than 2 years old. I don't have a decade or more of use to soften the ride. I'd say I have about 200 pounds of weight added to the car and I plan to add more. The weight, as mentioned, does definitely help. In comparison to a modern USDM (we love soft suspension and cup holders here, neither of which I have) vehicle though, it's almost at the complete opposite end of the spectrum. Okay, my thread hijack is over. Thanks for this write up! Any assistance getting parts on these cars where they belong is greatly appreciated! :]
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A note on the "overload" King springs. I've had mine for about a year and I'm not sure how I feel about them. The Pros: They benefit high-speed handling, they improve the weight capacity (cargo for wagons or utes, more passengers, etc), they're yellow - they give proto wilderness trim vibes. The Cons: The ride, oh my goodness the ride. It is very unforgiving in terms of comfort. I live in an area that sees significant seasonal freezing and thawing and the buckling of the roads makes for a truly bad ride. Think sitting at the back of a school bus going over railroad tracks bad. I've been debating replacing them with my worn stock springs. The ride isn't bad enough to buy new stock rate springs but that's just my opinion. I forewarn any passengers that haven't ridden in the car about the ride. I do worry about the long term stress on the mounts, bushings, strut towers, etc. However the benefit of better weight capacity and better handling has me on the fence about whether or not they're worth it. I'll be keeping mine for the time being but I will be replacing them at the first sign of excessive wear to suspension components. If you're thinking about getting them, they do what's written on the tin. But be forewarned, they do so at the sacrifice of comfort.
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Wheel seal driver
SuspiciousPizza replied to bushytails's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
On the 3rd gens the outer seal is smaller, it fits around the inner boss of the hub. The inner seal is larger. It snugs up against the outer CV joint. The outer cup of the CV is the sealing surface so the seal is quite large.
