oddcomp Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 http://cryofuzion.com/products.htm#Interfreezer so what ya think? i think for maf based people a small hack to move the air intake temp sensor might be needed for the ecu to work correctly in fact even for intercooled setups.. i think moving the air temp sensor might help alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 so what ya think?... Do ya REALLY want to know? See all that frost-soon-to-be-ice on the outside? What do you think the inside looks like? *IF* you had some feedback loop that controlled the cooling based on outflow temp and/or used the "waste" co2 stream to dehumidify the inlet air it could work... especially if you have access to a large amount of compressed/solidified CO2... ... gee, who do I know that has that? Ka-chink!!! Sale $.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Oh, and the piping should be copper not aluminum. Couldn't pass up an opportunity to show my bias! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcomp Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 yeah but if the tiny things are fixed.. it still might not be a bad thing to toy with but then again yeah you would need a free source of liquid co2 hmm i wonder where i could get that from..... hmmm....... dam shame iw ork at a dry ice plant... lol didja look at any of the other "toys" on that page? oh and my own setup the air temp hits 220F at 10-11 psi .. so 220f going into that... i don't think the same thing would occur at least not like what it looks with correctly sized exchanger tubes i dount icing would be a problem oh and might i add here is a towel use it your dripping on my thread hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 That thing about having a good supply of CO2, you'd have it made. I'd be Sorry Out of Luck. Yeah fix the little things... priority one IMO would be regulation of CO2-flow/outlet temp. Do that and you would be in Fat City. Oh, and that copper-thing! (BTW, I misquoted copper's advantage overt aluminum to a couple people this weekend... overstated by 'bout half an order of magnitude. It's only about TWICE as good as aluminum, not the 8 that I thought... other number had to do with heat transfer but was not exclusively conductivity. Thermal conductivity chart: http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=233 Doubt that exchanger tube size would have much effect on icing. Ready to make one??? Didn't look at other toys yet. ... oh and might i add here is a towel use it your dripping on my thread hehe You know, one of the problems of being an asocial ubernerd is that I have no idea what you mean by dripping. :-\ Is this like when a boy dog approaches a fire-hydrant??? (Shambles off, mumbling to himself: I got a bunch of copper pipe around here somewheres...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcomp Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 yes i would like to make one and toy with it also need to find a 5-10 lb lco2 bottle i can fill and about the dripping.. lets see your northwet... so wet= water water = drips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 ... And I am as thick as a brick this morning. Have you tried running any numbers to figure out co2 flow needed to cool the intake charge at max flow? Like, how long would 5-10 lbs of co2 last? (Short answer: Long enough!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcomp Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 umm numbers... uhmmm when confronted with math typethings i just usualy find some sharp object and stab at them till it goes away... translation.... me and math are not good friends nore are just plain lonely numbers... or for that matter letters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisscheese Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Here is a similar but different idea I have had for a while. What if you were to enclose the air to air intercooler in an insulated box and pipe air-conditioned air into it? It would be like a refrigerator for the intercooler. Do you suppose the increased power would offset the losses from turning the air conditioning compressor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Here is a similar but different idea I have had for a while. What if you were to enclose the air to air intercooler in an insulated box and pipe air-conditioned air into it? It would be like a refrigerator for the intercooler. Do you suppose the increased power would offset the losses from turning the air conditioning compressor? Some of us kicked this around a few weeks ago... I think it could be worthwhile IF you used some other method to get rid of most of the "high grade" heat first... and I probably would not use a/c'd air, but either directly stick the evaporator into the intake stream OR use the evaporator to chill a reservoir of water to be used in an air/water I/C. I think that it probably would be worth the energy used to chill, but that is just my gut feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondasucks Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 I like that Cheetah Jet thing.. would be really handy for tailgaters, etc.. Hit the button n watch 'em slow down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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