bgd73 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Can I drill in the ares of the two circles to match the openings in back of the bumper. I caught a glimpse of an older cavalier chevy rs and the bumper not only had holes, they were finned like a front grill would be... I may avoid a half functioning radiators problems yet...I also only posted half a dozen times today , in comparison to the normal 20. I would count this as the very last chore....if I can get away with it. I am still wanting a 2 core radiator, but time is several weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 bgd: i found a "checkerboard" style grille in one of my local junkyards on an 86 ea-82.. you used to have an 87 DL, did it have the same style grille as your loyale or was it like the checker one? it looks to me like the checker lets more air flow thru... also, here is a good suggestion.. remove the radiator and spray it down with concentrated simple green. powerful yet safe degreaser. makes a WORLD of difference. 160K worth of road grime is an EXTREMELY effective insulator.. and if you have any doubts, take the rad out and hold it up to the sunlight. see how much you can see. then you will know how futile adding air flow holes to your bumper would have been. i smoke cigarettes inside, live RIGHT in the armpit of the airport, and have a cat.. and my house has window unit ACs. i have to pull mine out 3 times a year and clean all the crap out of the coil, even using a filter. it is MIND boggling how much difference it can make. plus, then people will think you did it for "weight reduction," LOL. I saw a honda civic today that had large holes drilled thru the plastic bumper skin.. to reveal the solid metal bumper bar underneath the "weight reduction look?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgd73 Posted September 16, 2006 Author Share Posted September 16, 2006 bgd: i found a "checkerboard" style grille in one of my local junkyards on an 86 ea-82.. you used to have an 87 DL, did it have the same style grille as your loyale or was it like the checker one? it looks to me like the checker lets more air flow thru... also, here is a good suggestion.. remove the radiator and spray it down with concentrated simple green. powerful yet safe degreaser. makes a WORLD of difference. 160K worth of road grime is an EXTREMELY effective insulator.. and if you have any doubts, take the rad out and hold it up to the sunlight. see how much you can see. then you will know how futile adding air flow holes to your bumper would have been. i smoke cigarettes inside, live RIGHT in the armpit of the airport, and have a cat.. and my house has window unit ACs. i have to pull mine out 3 times a year and clean all the crap out of the coil, even using a filter. it is MIND boggling how much difference it can make. plus, then people will think you did it for "weight reduction," LOL. I saw a honda civic today that had large holes drilled thru the plastic bumper skin.. to reveal the solid metal bumper bar underneath the "weight reduction look?" It is all clean. It was my obsession for quite some time. It took 3 degreasings with "bombs away" and a flame throwing degreaser machine powered by kerosene. It did melt my skin . got the job done however, after a long time rinsing, engine/engine bay and everything nearby was a different shade of color.It is as if the front end and engine went thief for every disgusting, goopy sticky, electrically charging repulsive smelling, tougher-than-paint chemicals known to man. That was just the EGR valve... Anyway, the circles in photo have a square opening behind them, with a bracket looking bend convenient for mini- foglights or what have you for ideas.With the ingenuity I have seen here at usmb , I am curious to know if that really had a purpose, and if someone ever utilized it. oh, the 87 dl grill is in my loyale now. Going for 20 yrs ...I think it will make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 awesome, i nabbed one out at the junkyard and its awaiting some nice semi gloss black paint.. it also is gonna take some retrofitment, but mainly just buying some little screw retainer clips to pop into the metal tabs on the car. if you degreased the coil so thoroughly, then I dont think youre going to increase good airflow to the radiator that much. have you managed a good chemical flush of the rad to make sure the passagemways are as clear as possible? i mean, do you really have problems with it or are you just making the car a bit more "ideal" so to speak? ive often thought the silly looking car would benefit immensely from an air dam of sorts, to give it more of a jawline. such an airdam would also increase the area you could use to deflect wind into the radiator.. as far as I understand aerodynamics, thats about the only effective way of routing much more air to the radiator. you use the AC i take it? it DOES go without saying that you degreased the condensor coil too, right????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgd73 Posted September 16, 2006 Author Share Posted September 16, 2006 ok. I just went and did it. A half inch drill gun, and a dull 2 inch hole saw bit and 3 hours later.... If this isn't ready for an ej22 swap, it never will be..... Forgive bad photo, my fuji finepix is headed for disaster.. The results are good. I tested with a bic lighter while fan was running and it sucked at the flame in front of vents.strangely the a/c fan which is on drivers side, sucked more at the passenger side vent. So any forward movement at all is feeding it happily.I got a wiff of old antifreeze after a run. It has been squeezing drops out thru the cold and warm (stays tight when warm) since I got it. I hit the dead spot I was after. At 75mph on my speedo ( it is actually 87mph in my car), the front gets stiff and steering wheel is a tad tougher. I turned the bumper into a wing- slight nose down, acts heavier.The temps even on my bad rad did better noticably. All ready for 6th gear and a salt bed to launch this rocket to 180. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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