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Hey guys, Was wondering if I could get more lift after I installed scorp springs...maybe tires or different rims?
Also, is there a lift mechanic in and around Long island. (i.e. east coast Mud Rat).
I tell you, this deep sugar sand on the beaches has me worried, unless I can achieve 9" clearence with the air down to 20lbs.
I believe I need to go Higher
99 obw
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No stuck here,
How does that 4x4 conv. work?
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No stuck here, have not found my sube yet, not alot to choose from on the island, unless you get one from the dealership. worries me a little when the dealer offers no prior paper work (work that has been done, ie; hg's, timing belt ect.) At least with a private sale, there's a chance of seeing some proof of work......
I'm still 4eat bound, so let me know how your trip to the beach goes.
wow thats beautiful. makes me want to take a very long road trip.i think 4eat would be the better tranny for sand. i'll have the 5MT answer part next week-ish when i finally take my car to the beach
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Thanks Nipper, I'll be looking into autos now, much obliged to your sat. morn chat and expertise ...Subes are new to me, but the beach aint!
Gracias, cafe con leche
Bill
the LSD on a subaru is not worth the money. Its not mechanical its viscous. There is a delay before it kicks in and by then your buried in sand. Its ok for snow and rain. Also its just on the rear wheels so you can still get stuck. ever try to hold a manual at 3mph? its hard and not good at all for the clutch. An automatic not only can do that, but will also multiply the torque at that low a speed.the 5 speed you need to slip the clutch to engage it. The only way to get any rpm less then idle is to slip it, and by force of habit your going to apply more gas then you need to engage it. Automatic you can vary wheel speed real easily with your right foot.
Simulating lsd is an old trick thats been around since before LSD was invented. Dune buggies did by having individual hand brakes.
The new computer systems were with any 6 cylinder model, and i thnk now is available across the board.
nipper
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tripple shot for you.
Can I pick your brain about that modulation. the 5 speed has more of a tendancy to clutch slip than the auto, when you don't have a granny?
the new computers..would that be on the 2000 and up models?
I like the idea of simulating the lsd, but is a newer model with a factory lsd worth the extra mile? I hate to add on the extra 300 lbs of a 2000 plus year model.
thanks
your java bartender Bill
i've gone upscale, i want a capacino.The OBW can pull its stuff, just drop the air pressure and have an on board air compressor (just like any beach comber).
5 speed is a 50/50 split. Automatic is a 10/90 varing to 50/50. i'm geting to be a bigger fan of automtics on beach vehicals. If you get stuck its hard to modulate the clutch/throttle when you dont have a grany gear.
Also you can simulate lsd on front and rear by gently applying the brake pedal, you can get torque to all 4 wheels (basically waht the new computerized systems do).
As far as the head gasket, in a 8 year old car or older thats always a chance on any car. But i have been seeing less and less HG issues as they are getting repaired.
i like nutmeg and cinamon in that capaccino
nipper
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MMM so maybe I should be looking into a 2000 plus OBW, I believe that's when they started up with the LSD again...good to know, and the unlimited slip of the torque c...is that a crucial element in performance in soft sand?
I take it the scorps lift can be had on your 03 as well?
Bill
I think the 4eat is better for the lower gear ratio in 1st vs a 5mt in 1st gear.Plus you have unlimited slip of the torque convertor.
I have an 03 obw w/ a 4eat/lsd combo and works great in sand! I pulled out a big suv last year "Mercury mountaineer" out of the sand at Longbeach, Wa.
I feel the power/traction to weight ratio with a Subaru is unmatched vs alot of other vehichles.
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Thanks Steve,
Sand here is more sugary(slightly larger grains), but your shot of walking the dune is similar to here, ie..can be deep! Do you know of this auto vs manual decision amongst 96-99 OBW, something about a 60/40 split, or a 50/50 split, in terms of power to the front or rear wheels?
Do you think you would change your tires for something wider, more surface area.
Bill
I'm in the process of doing a little writeup of our recent trip to Southern UT, so I have a few photos handy.In the desert here the sand can be very fine, soft and deep. My 97 did great on this 4wd road last weekend:
How soft and deep is that sand (it's hard to tell from that photo)?
As we crested one of the hills, we saw an Xterra heading the other direction so I pulled off to the side as best I could, since he was going to have to go up the hill. As he approached us he started getting stuck. It took him several tries of killing the engine and driving a bit before he could get up the hill. So I'm not sure 5-spd is an advantage in sand (ours is the 4eat and I put it in "2" for this section).
I have the Scorpion springs and some AT tires. For the trip out we aired down to 20 psi and that made it easier than when I came into the trailhead at 35 psi. Momentum is very important too, 205 tires aren't very wide for the weight of these cars. But we still made it fine both ways, there was another first gen Outback at the trailhead too.
Steve
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True, true. I've been reading this great forum on Subes for a month now, and the gasket prob/repair is a pre rec for me buying one.
Thanks
if you buy one of those, be certain the previous owner has had headgasket problems and got them fixed. i can't say it enough, because it really bites when that happens. you should shoot for a 96 5mt (2.2L trusty motor in there) and transfer the hood if you really want a scoope. i'll let you know about the beach wheeling the outback can do when i get out there in a few weeks.... -
Mornin, out here on the east end..I posted earlier, maybe you could lend me your advice. thanks
Thinking about purchasing a 97-99 OBW. We have some really soft sugar sand here on the beaches, especially on the entrances. After a strut/Scorpion lift, can the OBW be counted on to pull its weight in this stuff?
Been driving on the beach for some years with conventional 4x4's, I know the terrain and tires that work best, air down, ect., but without a low gear and a LSD... I can only guess.
Also a 5 speed, I take it, would be best for the rev's. Is an automatic better because of the 60/40 split?
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Hey Guys,
Thinking about purchasing a 97-99 OBW. We have some really soft sugar sand here on the beaches, especially on the entrances. After a strut/Scorpion lift, can the OBW be counted on to pull its weight in this stuff?
Been driving on the beach for some years with conventional 4x4's, I know the terrain and tires that work best, air down, ect., but without a low gear and a LSD... I can only guess.
Also a 5 speed, I take it, would be best for the rev's. Is an automatic better because of the 60/40 split?
thanks
I need more lift
in Off Road
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That's true.... I guess I'm looking for the max height that the scorps will give..Any chance of getting a larger diam. tire under there? Wondering what the largest you can go is.
Bill