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Thanks daeron for your replies. You just helped me understand fuel injection better. Like I posted earlier I will post my progress tomorrow and let you know if it runs. Thanx Lee

Thanks Daeron for your reply. I just don't understand certain things yet. I am learning. I have already downloaded the fsm's. I have been around carburetors for a longtime. There not really that complicated unless either you are building a race car or running Holley 4 barrel carburetors and carbs can be cheaper sometimes. A lot of fuel injectors are expensive as well as the throttle bodies sometimes. I like carbureted cars because of the lack of the expensive computers and sensors. But I like the reliability of fuel injection. Wish me luck tomorrow on the subaru. Hopefully I have cheap transportation with a/c and I will post the results tomorrow. If anybody has any questions for suzuki samurais let me know. Thanx Lee

Milemaker13 I am working on this as time and money permit. I have never worked on a subaru before. I am used to carbureted cars and small 2 cycle engines. I am learning a lot baout subaru's here. I know it ran before but the previous owner supposedly did a tune up. It does not look like he did one. Maybe he did as the air filter is brand new. I do not know a whole lot about fuel injection. The car is at a friends house and I can only work on it when I have spare money. Do you know what a g sensor is on a subaru? I seen it mentioned in the chilton repair manual but it does not say where or what cars it is on. Thanx Lee

Thanks for the help Daeron. I got one last question for you would low fuel cause the motor to try and start when the gas pedal is fully depressed but not when released? Thanx Lee

Thankyou I now know that the fuel pump is good. I hope that a new fuel filter some fresh gas plugs wires and rotor with cap should have it up and running. Do you know where the fuel filter is at and is it easy access and can I move to under the hood if it isn't? Thanx Lee

Can you usually hear the feul pump when you first turn on the key, and would low fuel cause the no start? Fuel gauge reads empty, do you think 2 gallons would be enough? Thanx Lee

I tried it with fresh gas and it would not start. It would try if I held the gas pedal to the floor after a fashion. I may have poured in too much gas when I tried this. I will try some starting fluid next time I Play with the soob. Will be this next thursday. Thanx Lee

Thanx again you all. Is the ecu start pin labeled? Will check fuel delivery when I play with it again. Should I hear the fuel pump when I turn on the key? I unplugged the ecu code wires and I don't hear it anymore. Thanx Lee

Hi again I checked the codes and there is no codes to see. All check out good. Still will not start. Played with it today and same thing. will try to start with gas pedal to the floor. Could it be tps or fuel delivery issues? I cleaned the maf sensor out and it was clean. The air filter is brand new but the rotor and cap look like it could use replacing. I am really stumped here. Could the cap and rotor cause this problem? Acts like either it is not getting enough fuel or the throttle position sensor is out. Will try to start with accelerator all the way floored only not released or in between. Anybody ever seen this problem? Thanx Lee

I will get a book next payday and will post my progress as well as the ecu code properly. Thanx Lee

I have checked everything and it is all correct. I guess I will check the Maf sensor. Thanx you all for all your replies. I will post more details as I get them. I will check the blinking light again on the ecu to make sure it is right. Thanx again for the replies. Oh and can you tell me where the maf is?? Lee

I have verified spark and rotation. Car will fire with the gas pedal to the floor but not start and run. If gas pedal is released no fire. strange thing is I wasn't paying attention at first but then I noticed the clicking sound, click click underneath the dash and the wirring sound underneath the hood at what I believe relates to a small motor dealing with the fuel injection unit at the same time simultaneously as the red flashes. Will download the code stuff later before I go back and work on the soob. Would a crank position sensor cause this. Thanx Lee

I read skips post completely. My question now is this do the codes cover a 91 ea82 motor? I am just curious to know as I am very greatful for all the help. If you guys want me to I can describe the ecu flash sequence to the best of my knowledge. I believe it was a long flash followed by 2 short flashes. I will check his ecu codes again. Thanks Lee

The wirring sound came from underneath the hood. Sounded like a little motor underneath the hood related to fuel injection. car will try to start but not run with gas pedal to the floor. If you let off the gas pedal it will try like it has left over fuel then just cranks no try to start. The wirring sound occured at same time the clicks did. If you want the numbers off of them relays just let me know. I unplugged the square relay next to the round one clicking sound stopped. plugged back in clicking sound started. felt both the round one was clicking. Unplugged it and it stopped. clicking sound was spaced. click click off click click. etc. Thanx Lee

Hi there I am trying to get this subaru going. I read all the post in my other thread subaru loyal wagon won't start just back fires. Thanks to all who posted. The car has 208 thousand miles. everything is set right but the car won't start. I noticed this strange clicking sound coming from underneath the dash and I noticed a red blinking light coming from a box. I also noticed a wierd sound from underneath the hood at the same time sounds like it was coming from fuel injection. Everytime that clicking sound happened that other sound would happen. It would fire but not start. I found 2 relays and one was making the clicking sound. one is round and one is square. When I pulled the fuse for ignition coil/ fuel it stopped clicking light stopped flashing. the round relay has the firing order on it plus a diagram showing 2 numbers connected and one showing a triangle with a forward type slash showing it is off or open between the 2 numbers. What kind of relay is this? I found one at autozone showing a similar diagram that uses the same plug but it is square. Does it matter or not? I was hoping it would work. Thanx Lee