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  1. Putting a 2002 ej251 out of an impreza m/t into a 2000 outback a/t. 

     

    Why, oh why, is the timing different between an auto and manual? I have a fsm for a 2000 legacy.

     

    FSM:

    Ignition timing [bTDC/rpm]:
    MT vehicle: 10°±8°/650
    AT vehicle: 15°±8°/700
     
    Also, I was planning to swap the injectors between the two. Looking at the FSM it shows just an o-ring seal for the a/t, an o-ring and insulator for the m/t. Anybody know what that's all about?
     
    Thanks! The build is coming along slowly but quite nice. 

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  2. Good to hear. I did notice a difference in the cam sprockets so the car specific set are cleaned up and ready for install after my gates timing belt kit arrives. I will order some new injector seals (appears to be 3 seals per injector, 2 into the manifold and one fatty o ring into the rail) and swap for the newer set of 4. I'll get some pics up as well for anybody else going down this path. Thanks :)

  3. Okay so leave em alone, just new o rings. Sounds good. 

     

    Follow up question:

    I am mid-motor-swap putting an 02 block in a 00 car. I was advised on this forum to leave ecu, original intake manifold, cam and crank sprockets. The injectors on the 02 manifold which I am not using are 1. newer and 2. different colour/part number. (I can go copy numbers down if needed)

     

    I'd rather use the newer ones, I mean, why not right? More squirts away from death, and possible an improved design. Is there any reason why I can't? Ej251AXAWL 2002 motor from TS, car is 2000 outback ltd Ej251AW3AB. 

  4. Here is a price breakdown of what these bits cost, figured I'd take a minute to scribble it down for anyone else going down this road. I am in Ontario, Canada as I'm sure prices differ regionally. 

     

    From local Subaru dealer-

     

    The two seals I questioned about above total $18.

    Thermostat 78deg  $26.20

    Oil pan                    $66.08

    V-belt                      $21.58 (mitsubishi)

    a/c belt                    $27.90 (gates)

    rear main seal         $16.66

    water pump gasket  $3.40

    oil seperator plate   $21.79

    bolts for sep plate   $0.39/ea

     

    from ebay

    Gates timing belt kit TCKWP304 with waterpump  $172 USD + exchange + import  + shipping + tax = $221.64 CND

     

    from local auto parts shop (+tax) 

     

    Valve cover gasket kit $50.36 (with spark plug seals and 10 bolt grommets) 

    Fel-pro intake manifold gasket set  $12.54

    Knock sensor $132.55

    Front main seal $18.71

    PCV valve $4.93 

     

    don't forget plugs, wires, oil, filter, coolant, engine cleaner, sand paper, anaerobic sealant, rtv sealant.... prices vary by quality.

     

    I'm still under "budget" (had a dollar figure in mind to get this car rolling) but certainly costing me a little bit more than expected. reassembly beginning today :D

  5. This shaft is located between the torque converter and the transmission, running through the transfer case. 

     

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    Item #7. I understand it is what powers the oil pump inside the 4 speed. 

     

    Is this seal #6 supposed to be a split seal or should it be a continuous ring? 

     

    Since it's already out of the vehicle, I'd imagine I should replace #6 and #15 ? 

     

     

    THANKS!

     

  6. i like the starter idea for depth checking. makes sense. 

     

    so i think i've got it figured out what happened. when i pulled the motor the tranny pump shaft came with the motor. which is better than it staying the 4 speed i guess.

     

    On this shaft is a small metal clip that holds pump shaft to TC. on other end of the shaft is a small seal, which broke. I am going to replace that small seal on the pump shaft, and the seal that is visible in the front of the transfer case. 

     

    I know on some motors (example ford 351C) they use a 28oz weight on the flywheel/flex plate, if you use a different weighted flywheel you're hooped. Is a subaru flex plate balanced all the way around? can i bolt it to the crank is any orientation? thanks again everyone your help has been great

  7. I was unaware of the torque converter issue, thanks for that. 

     

    I didn't give much thought to it when I pulled the engine, but now I'm wondering if I should have left the TC connected to the tranny and unbolted it through the access hole on the top of the motor? 

     

    The pump shaft came out with the engine and a clip as well tz1a4caba more reading to do,,

  8. Thanks for the replies :)

     

    I don't mind an auto tranny i guess, it certainly does have it's benefits, but sure do prefer the more control of a 5 speed especially in the snow. 

     

    Cam, crank sprockets and intake. On it! 

     

    The pistons did get hit pretty good, more so from when the previous owner tried to start it without fixing valves first. if i didn't have a running block already i would opt for a quicky head job and be done with it, but i figured this is a better route for now. 

     

    Going to wrench on the 2002 motor today so we'll see how that goes

    Cheers

  9. Thanks for the welcome :)

    Car seems straight and clean so I figured for 600 bucks with 2 sets tires/rims, one being brand new goodyear eagle directional snow tires, other yokos on the stock aluminums, it was worth the gamble. The guy who owned it cooked the timing belt, replaced belt, and attempted to start it. nice eh?! so whatever, i have a running ej251 out of an 02 TS that is going in for now. Planning a winter project rebuild of the original block.

     

    pulled heads first to check out the carnage, which was bad enough to warrant the motor swap. I posted a couple pics in the proper thread of the car and some bent valve awesomeness lol. I got the motor out today and parts ordered... i posted a question in the proper forum about some electrical questions. Glad to be a part of the forum!

  10. Hello everyone, I picked up a 2000 outback limited with a blown timing belt.

     

    Well... it had a blown belt, and the guy slapped on a new one and tried to start it... so needless to say the motor is in dire straights. pulled heads there's bent valves, damaged pistons, and all that fun stuff. no problem, i have a running motor out of a 2002 TS that I will drop into the car as a temporary fix while I completely rebuild the original motor over the winter. The car is an auto (gross) which I'm going to leave for now until the rebuilt motor goes in and I have rounded up clutch linkage, rear diff etc.

     

    I ordered from subaru today- oil pan, exhaust gaskets, rear main seal, oil separator plate, water pump gasket, t-stat housing gasket.

    I ordered from online today- gates timing belt kit tckwp304, t-stat.

     

    The 2000 ecu currently in the car is for an auto tranny tz1a4caba and ej251axawl engine.

    The 2002 engine going into the car is for a standard tranny tyl54vc2aa and ej251aw3ab engine. 

     

    So, should I swap the ecu with the matching motor and trick into thinking there is an auto, or leave it as is and just plug in the motor?

     

    And, is my parts list complete for this project? Like I say I'm just looking for 6 months of reliability so basically I am going economy class for now, and going all out on the winter build. 

     

    Thanks for any advice here, I have done tons of reading it seems either way will work but I figured check with the experienced before I'm turning the key.

     

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