so if i dont have a check engine light that means the signal from speedo is coming straight into it and the leaving to the ecu. No speedo but apprantley the signal is getting to the ecu so its not settin off a CEL. I am so confused. The light comes on when to start so i know the light works. Well there must be a CEL unless the speedo gear in the transmission is bad but that does not help that the speedo does not work. i guess i will clear the ecu and see what codes pop up when i finish