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wall_e

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    Subaru Outback 2.5 / 2015

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  1. Holly cow ! some folks got it worst than me ... wow.... I think i got rid of that Subaru just in time. All the excessive oil consumption seems to be the new "norm" with various manufacturers...not only Subaru. Probably getting me an older vehicle and bring it "up to code" may be the way to go. Definitely new vehicles are not the way to go...not any more, not now.
  2. GD: you are probably right, but from what I have read and researched not all of them have that much oil consumption. And yes, every manufacturer has some other issues, bigger or smaller. Gloyale: no, the car did not broke down, and I wasn't planning to wait and see in what the excessive oil consumption would eventually evolve into. And, again, is not a little more oil buying. Is almost 1/2 of the engine capacity ( that is a bit more than I can accept ). I DID get rid of it, but never declared Subaru garbage. I think is a good car that got a bad management lately who is trying to save a buck in the wrong place ( at least for me ). Am I going to loose more on depreciation of a new car ? Yeah, no doubt about it. But new is not always better... There are still good used cars out there, which already have the depreciation "built" in. Again, is not the "little" oil or more gas, for me is a matter of principle. Like I said, I might have expected too much from them.
  3. Greetings everyone. First of all, I want to thank every one for really good advice and really, and very good insight into Subaru. Like I said, I guess I am an old timer and I still believer in some brands more than others. No good reason for that. Subaru was one of them. Regarding oil consumption: I do understand that some oil consumption is a necessary "evil", and that is not an electrical engine. However, when an engine is deemed "normal" to have a consumption of almost 1/2 of its oil capacity between oil changes, is beyond my acceptance level for "normal". Having that at ~55k miles, even worst. Yes, I was getting fantastic MPG with that Outback, almost 32 MPG on HWY, but that is not everything on a car. I was planning to keep it for as much as I could. I really liked that car, but I can't pass that psychological threshold of oil consumption. To me this is another trick, gimmick, or name it what you want, to get a great MPG to the consumer detriment. VW cheated at the pipe to get you a good MPG. In my opinion Subaru is being more subtle is getting the oil to do the trick. May not show at the pipe but is on my dime ( regardless of price ). Anyways, I am not going to dwell much on the philosophical part of the problem...it is what it is. So, last week I got rid of my Subaru, and I did switched to a different vehicle ( which I am not going to name here ). Anyways, for me it was a fantastic vehicle, and I wish that Subaru had done the right thing and keep a good engine in it. But yeah, economics ... Thanks again and wish you all a great day.
  4. " I would rather sink thousands into parts to restore my classics than settle for the plastic disposable garbage being produced these days. Newest car I own is a 91 Legacy. And there's very good reasons for it." Absolutely agree with you !!! 100% My best vehicle I owe now is a 2001 F350 with a 7.3L PSD engine. I told the wife to bury me in it when I die . Never had an issue with it. Oil and diesel, that was all during this years. The other month, I did the front end ( ball joints and tierods ) - that after almost 17 years ....not bad, eh ?! Oh, and it does not "eat up oil" like other newer vehicles. At the moment I will probably ride my truck as a daily commute, until I may decide what next ...
  5. Bobaru71 - Is not that I can't afford to buy a gallon of oil, or change it myself, I just don't want to. Not for this car, or for any other. Well, if I buy it as advertised - you need to add oil to it so often - then yeah, I agreed with it from the begging, and I knew. But this is a deceiving technique in my book. Fool me once... GD : Ok, here is my way of looking at it: - Subaru is one of the brands with excessive oil consumption ( other german cars are doing even worst ) - the more I look the more I find reports about that; - the "engineered" oil consumption to "trick" a better MPG is done on my dime - not cool - not ALL the cars have that issue and they still pass under the EPA rules and qualify as road worthy - with decent MPG rates Now, your way of looking at this "It's easy to sit here and throw rocks at these guys, but I wouldn't want their job. " , I look at it differently : if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. All these tricks and gimmicks to give me a better MPG smells of "VW" engineering - agreed, not that deviant, but it is done on my dime, however that may cost. Over all, at this point in time, I think I am done with Subaru. I do not know what the next vehicle will be, but I do know it ain't gonna be a Subaru again. Tomorrow, I am going to sell it - seriously - CarMax or wherever I can break even and forget about it. No, I am not extreme, but I did lost the confidence in this brand. Why ? probably because I trusted them more than others.... and I do realize that I was naive ... That being said, I really want to thank you all and appreciate the honest responses.
  6. One thing I am curious about it then ... ok, that is the case: is by design ...ok. However, why is then this addressed (a.k.a. fixed ) in the newer models like '17 and '18 if is a great feature? Just curious...
  7. GD - you make a good point. You really do. However, I had a bit more faith in Subaru. Why ? well, I can't tell, but boy ! do I feel stupid now ! All the respect for this brand is now on par with the other manufacturers ... like close to 0. You right, probably will not go to the stealership, but I do seriously think of getting rid of it while it still has some residual value left. Thanks for all good advice.
  8. Thank you all for your quick responses. I had dye added to the oil today and topped it to the level. I will give it till the next oil change ( btw- my oil changes are done in time / based on the indicator "time to change oil soon" - never late, always earlier, and I do it at the dealership with their oil ). If it goes down again with the same message or the oil decreases with 1 qt. then I guess there is an oil consumption issue. GD: with all respect "1 quart in 2500 miles is nothing"....yeah, I get your point - but.... is still don't sounds right to me. Look, I used to have a Yugo that did not used that much oil, and had a better MPG. Heck, my mower uses less oil. Overall, I am a bit ( =lot) disappointed with Subaru. Don't get me wrong, I love the car, but having a bag of oil with me all the time.... not appealing. Again. thanks a lot for your support and help so far.
  9. Greetings, I hope I am posting this in the right forum ( newby here ) Here is the story: - in october '14 I got a new Subaru Outback (2015 model) with 2.5 engine. - until last week it all went flawlessly- no issues whatsoever. - Wile driving on HWY the "oil level is low ... " came up. I was just about 2500 miles from my previous oil change. I had to stop to a gas station and get some oil in to continue the journey. It took a quart to come up at the regular level. Today I went to the "stealership" and they told me that it is "normal" for a car that has 53k miles to "use oil". Now, I am no rocket scientist, but if the math adds up correctly, that would be 2 qt. of oil between oil changes( ??!). Based on your experience, would you consider the following: a-) get rid of it - not worth the trouble b-) try to find a dealership that would work on it ( if they want to acknowledge the issue ) ? c-) as I have extended warranty from Subaru, run it till the wheels falls off ? and expect them to fix it in case the engine goes bust ? Thank you in advance, and I appreciate if you can share your experience - if any .... or seen similar cases for this model.
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