Marathonman

Great.I will check those too. I also heard union bolts can clog and cause turbo issues, But not sure where to find them, Thank you for the advice

I'm definitely encouraged. No more than a tooth or 2. But is that enough to cause running issues?

Thanks! That sounds encouraging. And I'm definitely the first one to get in there so no fear of previous mistakes. So do you feel being off a tooth will make it run bad and start hard? So install new belt kit and cross fingers right?

So I picked up a 2008 Outback XT that won't run. It has 172,000 miles. I got it to start for a couple seconds. It ran horribly rough, smoked and wouldn't rev at all then stalled. And made a rattling sound. So I took the cam belt covers off and find the timing marks are off by a tooth on 2 cams. So given the out of time situation can I assume there has been valve to piston contact? Or is worth putting a timing belt kit in it and see what happens? Looks like plugs are impossible to get at without lifting engine. I know a compression test will tell the story on valve condition but hard to get in there, Thanks

Good advice, thanks.

Hello, I could use some help please. My 2007 Outback 2.5I overheated due to head gasket leaking compression into cooling system. I did everything the right way, I had the heads machined flat and used Subaru parts to reassemble. Upon initial start up it ran rough which is not a surprise. It had a rough idle and stumbled with throttle. Then CEL came on so I scanned it. That's when all the misfire codes came up. I cleared them out it ran perfect for a day until just now. Cold engine after work and the scenario repeated exactly. I cleared codes and drove home with no further issue. I reused my plugs and wires since they only had 15,000 miles and looked fine, And yes they are NGK . And this issue never happened before the cooling issue. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Thanks GD! I have driven about 175 miles since I replaced the primary O2 sensor. CEL has not returned and over 21mpg, It's running normal again. So on your advice it looks to be better. My final question is why do I get a PERMANENT P2097 stored? Can a dealer clear it? But fortunately no light on the dash is on so I have cruise and traction control again. Erik

Makes perfect sense. Then I'll order the O2 sensor and hopefully be done with it. Thanks again, Erik

Happy Nee Year! So I installed my new Denso MAF. Was good for a bout 5-10 miles. Fuel trim was low and MPG went up and exhaust didn't smell foul. Then it happened again. The fuel trim went high again, MPG dropped and exhaust smelled bad again. I'm afraid the dealer might be my next move. More guessing on $100 sensors will add up quick. Any other suggestions? Is the primary O2 sensor still reasonable to replace? Someone mentioned that was the next most likely issue. Then to the dealer if it doesn't help? Thanks again.

I truly appreciate all the feedback. Everything under the hood looks good. I'm ordering a MAF sensor from Rock Auto. I'll report back once I get it changed.

Awesome feedback from all you! You all explained everything so easy to understand too. Thank you! I have a lot more things to look at this weekend due to you help. I’ll report back my findings.

Hopefully someone with computer knowledge sees this. My 2010 Forester with 5 spd is doing the exact same thing with P2097. I have 108,000 miles now. I did timing belt, water pump, plugs and wires and replaced air filter and pcv about 5,000 miles ago. I am scanning my computer now as suggested previously. MAF is 0.36. MAP is 8.3. Coolant is 199. ST trim -3.1 and LT trimmis 28.1. Cat con temp is 413. O2 voltage bank sensor 0.955. O2 sensor bank 1 sensor 1 is 0.086 is that enough info to know what’s going on? Please help and thank you!

Thank you for the advice!

Thank you, I've been to Kinsman many times. I've delivered food to the high school. This forum looks really awesome!

Thank you! I have 4 Foresters (2000,2003,2004,2010). 2007 Outback and 2013 Tribeca. I just found a 2005 Legacy GT Wagon 5 speed with rod knock that I am very interested in. My wife is not real receptive though.