globochem Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Working on a 1985 Brat, I had a huge exhaust leak at the connection between the exhaust pipe after the converter to the intermediate pipe before the resonator, so I figured I'd replace the gasket and also try to address the sag in the exhaust system which probably caused the leak in the first place. I inserted the gasket (Fel-Pro 60566) and bolted the pipes back together but this just seems like too big of a gap. This model number is supposed to fit an '85 Brat but it just doesn't seem like the tightest seal to me. I'm new to this so maybe I'm missing something but does this look right? Driver side angle: https://drive.google.com/file/d/105GyNzLpYFJoks3KG9s_aT19iXtZzf50/view?usp=sharing Passenger side angle: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t7cSIzs9kHmFQHRBTQv4jEOzX9f-xZnl/view?usp=sharing Additionally, where are the exhaust hangers supposed to be on the frame? I'm only seeing one near the rear axle. I don't know if the others rusted off or what but someone before me just wrapped a piece of wire around the pipe and the sway bar: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11u0OvjgNDVYK-dmv_C4Y7_S13niNH4HD/view?usp=sharing Thanks for any tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushytails Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 That looks right to me. The "gap" will shrink as the donut wears. There should be a bracket on the back of the transmission that the exhaust rigidly bolts to, not a hanger. This is a little newer, but shows how it works: https://www.subaruoutback.org/attachments/560913/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globochem Posted June 11 Author Share Posted June 11 Man, I'm just not seeing it if it's there. I can see on the exhaust pipe where the bolts would attach to a bracket, you can see it in the first image, but I don't see where the bracket would attach to anything. I'm wondering if the bracket rusted off at some point and this sheared area is what's left: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11zdb1sjc_dODNp6YoLSoJigjvWzudY8K/view?usp=sharing Google Image Search has some nice shots of the underside but I haven't seen anything with high enough resolution to really see what's going on. Thanks for the insight on the donut, that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushytails Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Here's two pics of an extremely mushed 4-speed d/r one, and a non-mushed 5-speed d/r + ej car: https://imgur.com/a/bUgpkRj I'm guessing your bracket is missing, if there's nothing like it hanging down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globochem Posted June 12 Author Share Posted June 12 That's super helpful, thank you. I feel like I'm close to solving this mystery. In that first image is there one or two bolts that attach to the transmission? Do you know what size they are? Another forum presented this parts chart: https://imgur.com/qu43AD3 Based on what I'm seeing on the transmission and the images it seems like it'd be No. 4 but if I'm reading that right it's for an Automatic and I've got a 4WD Manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushytails Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Since you're probably going to be fabricating your own, just make it fit whatever bolts you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globochem Posted 15 hours ago Author Share Posted 15 hours ago Thanks for walking me through the mounting bracket location, I was making it way harder than it needs to be and I think I've got that situated. I'm still having a problem with the exhaust where the pipes meet, though. I've got a brand new gasket in there but it's leaking in the same way that it did before I changed the gasket. I don't see an issue with the pipes like a crack or hole, so I'm thinking it has to be the connection. Does anyone know the correct size of the bolt/spring set that joins the flanges together or does it not matter as long as there is a secure connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushytails Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago As long as the springs are holding it tight, it doesn't matter what they are. My car has generic dorman ones from the auto parts store. Did you make a new bracket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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