Edkrk2 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I was trying to rebuild my Carter-Weber carb but having a very difficult time finding a rebuild kit, I did find one for $175. I guess the problem is the unique accelerator pump. I have tried at lot of vendors, Walker, Royze, Summit and many more. Does anyone have a source for the accelerator pump, or have a carburetor they want to sell? This is an Arizona Brat, it was sitting for a long time and the pump dried out, soaked the pump in WD 40 for a couple of days, the diaphragm is now flexible but some of the rubber coating is gone. Has anyone modified a Carter VF pump to work on the 82 Brat? Any suggestions???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naru Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 http://www.walkerproducts.com/_pdf/applicationguide.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edkrk2 Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 Thanks for your help. Just sent Walker an email regarding the kit listed, the kit doesn't show a number for the accelerator pump, so I asked them if a pump was included.. National Carburetors can order a kit but they want $175, for it. Talked to Royze Monday, they haven't had the pumps for 12 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrgrr Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I searched long and hard for that pump, as did a dealer/tech where I found the car. Ended up doing the weber swap which hurt a little since the engine bay was So perfect. I hope you have better luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edkrk2 Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 Thanks. Walker has a rebuild kit but wants $250 for it. I am going to try to modify a Carter 7416 S accelerator pump, it's about a inch longer, little cutting, see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrgrr Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Have a fire extinguisher ready, just in case! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edkrk2 Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 Worth a try??? Should have pump by Tuesday, I'll keep you posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchsub Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Honestly if you have not opened the package it came in i would send it back. The carter-weber was a pretty poorly designed carburetor. In order to take it off the motor you have to remove the entire intake to get to the two bolts holding the carburetor base down. I have yet to find a carter-weber that runs correctly at this point in time. Even the factory two barrel hitachi was a step up in reliability. My guess is (and this is speaking from experience) is that if you go through the trouble of fixing everything you think is wrong with the carb that it will still not run as nice as you think it should. My advice is to find a hitachi intake manifold and either do a full hitachi swap and spend the time learning to rebuild one of those if you really want a stock appearing engine or....get the hitachi intake and buy a brand new weber carb. It will simplify your life. Yes its expensive compare to other things but you get what you pay for in life. I went up 1 mpg going to the weber and the car ran smoother at all RPMs. It really is night and day how nice the car runs if you properly tune a weber. I had mine running as smooth as fuel injection. I hope your not offended by this but i just dont want to see you go through all that trouble trying to polish a turd so to speak and still end up with sub-par results in the end. Its better to spend a bit more now to avoid that IMO. Just my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naru Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Thanks. Walker has a rebuild kit but wants $250 for it. I am going to try to modify a Carter 7416 S accelerator pump, it's about a inch longer, little cutting, see what happens. $250, WOW! That is harsh.I had no idea.Ferrari stuff is cheaper. Should be able to modify something.Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naru Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Honestly if you have not opened the package it came in i would send it back. The carter-weber was a pretty poorly designed carburetor. In order to take it off the motor you have to remove the entire intake to get to the two bolts holding the carburetor base down. I have yet to find a carter-weber that runs correctly at this point in time. Even the factory two barrel hitachi was a step up in reliability. My guess is (and this is speaking from experience) is that if you go through the trouble of fixing everything you think is wrong with the carb that it will still not run as nice as you think it should. My advice is to find a hitachi intake manifold and either do a full hitachi swap and spend the time learning to rebuild one of those if you really want a stock appearing engine or....get the hitachi intake and buy a brand new weber carb. It will simplify your life. Yes its expensive compare to other things but you get what you pay for in life. I went up 1 mpg going to the weber and the car ran smoother at all RPMs. It really is night and day how nice the car runs if you properly tune a weber. I had mine running as smooth as fuel injection. I hope your not offended by this but i just dont want to see you go through all that trouble trying to polish a turd so to speak and still end up with sub-par results in the end. Its better to spend a bit more now to avoid that IMO. Just my two cents. I can`t agree. The Carter-Webers run fine. They even have a slight bottom/mid end advantage over the Hitachis because of the completely mechanical throtlle linkage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchsub Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I can`t agree. The Carter-Webers run fine. They even have a slight bottom/mid end advantage over the Hitachis because of the completely mechanical throtlle linkage To each his own opinion i guess. Im just speaking from the few carter-webers ive run across along with the hand full on this board that have asked questions similar to this about poor running. Also, the few carter-webers that ive run across on my end have been low mileage examples and still had poor running problems. I can understand how they would have a slight advantage over the hitachi in mid range but that advantage is quickly overruled by the general design. If you have to pull the entire intake to take the carb off thats a poor design in my book. A weber 32/36 is even simpler than a carter-weber and you get the benefit of a brand new carb...not a 30+ year old one that may or may not work correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edkrk2 Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 Thanks for the suggestions. I am looking at my options, I haven't found an Hitachi Carb or intake manifold yet, I have been looking. Any suggestion? Also thinking of the Holly 5200. Just got the YF accelerator pump today, will try to adapt it to the TYF, keep you posted. I did find a rebuild kit for $150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbosubarubrat Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The rebuild kit for the hitachi's are $20-30 at the auto parts stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edkrk2 Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 If I had an Hitachi carb, that would be great. There's plenty of Hitachi kits out there. I tried the FY accelerator pump, won't do the job, not enough pressure, barely squirts gas. Where can I get Hitachi carb and manifold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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