moshem74 Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 hi. what this thing do and how i'ts work? will it fit subaru dl with carborator or it's just for injection? thank you. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7982381337&category=33553 You are bidding on 1 SUBARU Loyale Pro Choice high performance module. . Fits all Fuel injected SUBARU Justy 1990-1994 part number 2569 Standard and Automatic. *WARNING - No turbo or No diesel engines* Designed for your vehicle not like the competitions 1 size fits all modules. The Pro Choice module is engineered with the finest quality materials on the planet. Our modules are water and heat resistant and can be used in hot or cold weather unlike any other modules out there. Backed by a lifetime Warranty and a 100% money back Guaranty if you don't like our product. Do you feel the need for speed Well let me introduce the Pro Choice Module to you. Designed to give you the performance that car manufactures restrict you from having. FULL BLOWN POWER AND TORQUE. Yes that's right it takes off the barriers that they imply. Full throttle response (immediate) Add 10-22hp to your power train (awesome) Works with aftermarket intake systems as well as stock air tubes (wicked) Gets you a speeding ticket (slow down) Comes with full instructions and all parts you need to install anyone can do-it (takes 10-15 minutes) Does it come with instructions ? Yes you get complete detailed instructions with diagrams for easy install. You get 1 Pro Choice Module, 2 Scotch Locks and a lifetime warranty on the module!! Will this void my warranty ? NO our modules will not void out most warranties. If you have a very strict underwriter on your warranty you can undo the module in less than 5 minutes. You can even Re-Install it later. Why so cheap ? Our manufacturer is able to produce large quantities. They use the latest technology, state of the art equipment and high quality materials. The molded ABS and Polycarbonate cases are heat and water resistant. All this simply puts our product on top of our competitors at a fraction of the cost. Will it effect my speed limiter ? Our module does nottake off your speed limiter. It is not legal and we will not jeopardize your safety. Some of our competitors will for profit but is it really worth it? Will this work with aftermarket intake ? Yes, It will work with aftermarket intake as well as stock intake. Does it increase or decrease my MPG ? No, your gas mileage will be the same. Any change is virtually unnoticed. Do I need any special skills or tools ? No special skills are required. A simple pair of strong pliers will be necessary for the install. Where do I hook this module up? The Pro Choice Module simply hooks up to your Intake Air Temperature or Coolant Temperature Sensor with Scotch Locks provided. Will this module fit my 4cyl, 6cyl, 8cyl? The Pro Choice Module will fit all engine sizes and types for this make of vehicle, providing they are fuel injected and not turbo or not diesel. Will this damage my engine? Absolutely not. Since the altered signal will always stay within the manufacturer's specifications, there is no way for your engine to be damaged in any way. All our orders go out small packet air Via USPS. Shipping is $6.00 (U.S funds) to ship Worldwide Shipping Insurance is optional $1.00(U.S funds) Allow up to 14 days for delivery. We accept: Pay-Pal , Cash , Money Orders , Euro's , Peso's , Western Union or Cashiers Checks only. No personal checks can be accepted. Thank you. If you don't get an End of Auction Email within 24hrs please email us. Do not purchase unless you intend to pay, otherwise a Non Paying Bidder Alert will be issued! THANK YOU and ENJOY! Powered by eBay Turbo Lister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 The advertisement is a little confusing and, in my opinion, misleading. It starts out saying LOYALE and then says JUSTY. It does say that it is only for fuel injected cars, not carbureted. I would guess that it "works" by changing what temperature the Coolant Temperature Sensor (CTS) reports to the ECU; it almost certainly changes the sensor's output to say that the engine is cooler than what it actually is; the ECU would then enrichen the fuel mixture. If I were to guess what was inside of that box, I would say that it is probably just a simple resistor that is electrically "paralleled" with the CTS' resistance. It could be a fancier electronic circuit that only alters the CTS reading when at operating temperatures. I think that this is what we in the USA might call "snake oil" (a term from Western Expansion era): It is something that does not really do much good that is being marketed in a strong, persuasive manner. Even if it did fit your car, I would instead recommend spending the money on replacement ignition tune-up parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue84Hatch Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Yea I think you are right. Is there anyway that old subaru SPFI computer can be modded?? Like a power chip from hypertech or something?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 I think the bad English in the ad is a good indication that its a load of crap. That, and the fact that all it can possibly do is make the engine run richer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Yea I think you are right. Is there anyway that old subaru SPFI computer can be modded?? Like a power chip from hypertech or something?? I doubt it. Not much of a market, and the SPFI seems pretty well tuned already. MegaSquirt might be an good option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subyrally Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 i think that is just a $0.47 resistor that the plug some wires into and say its a tuning chip. what it does is it makes the ecu think that it is running lean and thus adds more fuel. it also has a tendancy to fry the maf and ecu. at least thats what people have said, a lot. its a waste of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Yea I think you are right. Is there anyway that old subaru SPFI computer can be modded?? Like a power chip from hypertech or something?? If your REALLY keen, the computers chips can be reprogrammed. Still, i don't think there would be much to gain, and you would probably have to pay an elec engineer more money that a megasquirt would set you back. That, and even looking at the programming code used for those wee processors gives me a headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 I have looked inside of an MPFI ECU, and IIRC that ROM was soldered in place, not socketed. Makes it a little more of a pain to do anything with. The 6500-series micro in the MPFI ECU isn't that much of a pain to program. Probably still a few disassemblers available to reverse-engineer the code. I just don't think it is worth trying to re-invent a blackbox rather than going with the a more open platform like MS. Tweak on the fly, get real information about what is going right and wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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