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I've been driving past this one yard/dealership named "Llyod's" for a few years now, and he always has several Subaru's. Some of them are a bit more rusted than others, but, it might be a good place to stop by if you're driving through East Durham.
Yes, you can search "Llyod's of East Durham" in Google, and it'll come up. Number's posted and was told to call for any appointments to look over the things at his yard. Nice guy, and definitely knows his stuff on these cars.
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I found the tutorials in this thread.
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I was also referred to this place and haven't found my way up there yet.
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Try NY 145 North over the Hudson. I know I've seen a lot of places in Durham and other small towns that have a lot of 80's and 90's models... Wanted to work my way up it today myself, but, I have to fix a crappy exhaust manifold on a Mustang... Hah.
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Right, so now that I can sit down and introduce myself a bit more...
I managed to inadvertently find this forum while looking over Milesfox's tutorials for the EA82. Kudos to you for really putting this car into perspective for me.
Past that, I appreciate the advice those of you gave on what to do with my Legacy and Loyale... yeah... the front drive pair... I did get the Legacy fixed, $1300 later (Not awful, 5 year warranty on the unit... Overdrive works great too, even the kickdown).
Anyway, I'm mostly here for info, and maybe to drop names of places I happen to see older Subaru's. I try not to spring for anything newer than a 96 myself, so... Heh. Good to meet you guys otherwise.
Edit: http://tinypic.com/r/309k0gy/5
Yep, they're ugly, but they're my cars and they've both been real good to me. Ignore the possible tacky foil tape and other crude use of duct tape.
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I don't think any legacy's came with the 3at...
The FWD 5spd is in the Loyale, the supposedly dead FWD 4eat is in the Legacy, which is why he wants to swap the EJ22 into the Loyale.
Correct. I am missing 4th and Reverse on my Legacy. I had been told this could be the whole tranny, the diff, or the torque converter (same thing?), it'd be some at least $1500 to have a shop do.
I'm going to spend tomorrow (today) calling around and at least checking on prices for it, because I after thinking about it, I don't want to tear apart the reliable car. Still leaves me up on the Loyale tho, but the garage space is the same for either car.
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I have 85,86,88,89,and 90.......
Each of them was that different? I thought the similar body years shared specifications and such.
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Do those have complete vacuum hose diagrams and the like?
Did you happen to see how HUGE the Engine/Tranny section is? (sections 2 and 3?)
Here.
And the index? I'm missing 4 and 5. Long story.
No seriously. There's at least a 1000 pages in this book alone. They are "Fuji Heavy Industries" labeled manuals. They're not "repair" manuals. They're "service" manuals.
Not sure if you guys know the difference, but... It's huge. This stuff makes Haynes/Chilton look like children's books.
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would you be scanning them at all?
If I manage to come across a decent, cheap flatbed scanner... Then yes.
Otherwise, for the meantime, I have my Droid Bionic, so taking photos with it isn't too bad.
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Uhmmm.......
correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't he just redrill his existing flywheel(whatever it's dimensions) and then install his whole existing clutch assembly with the EJ?
I mean.......he's got all the parts to work with the trans......just needs to fit his flywheel to the new engine.....correct?
So he'd still just need to buy an EA82 2wd 5spd kit any time he needed it?
This is the impression I'm being given through the writeups.
Though I'm starting to also debate just finding any cheap auto and just sucking up what I don't like about the Legacy (IE it being automatic, parts being more expensive). After all... The tranny IS the only thing I've ever had go wrong with it. Get another 50K and it's worth it?
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Hey guys, just wanted to chime in here and let you all know I have these at my complete and total disposal.
http://i42.tinypic.com/2q8rknp.jpg
They have a lot of really indepth info
http://i43.tinypic.com/97v1ux.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/2nrj9t.jpg
So if anyone needs, well uh, anything but suspension and things pertaining solely to the brakes? Feel free to come PM me. I'll do my best to help.
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Oh right - the EA82 is a 5 speed.... being a 2WD it will use a 200mm clutch assortment.... you could use an XT6 flywheel and pressure plate but you would need to use a 225mm disc for an 83/84 4 speed 4WD as well as the TOB holder for the 4 speed and the TOB from an 80's nissan 720 pickup truck.... should work but it will be a strange combo that you'll have to peice together as no one makes a kit with that drunken assortment in it
.GD
It does sound a bit like something you'd come up with at a bar, that's for sure!
Even so, I'm probably going to order the adapter kit with the flywheel since it seems to be the way to simplify this entire process. Does that kit also include the offset bolts? And what other bolts would I use to rebolt it, anyway? I imagine the ones off the EJ tranny since they are the correct thread/dia. as the holes on the engine.
I'm going to harbor freight next week to buy the jacks and such. I'll be sure to post some photos of the progress once I get the Legacy settled into the garage.
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Yes. Mechanically speaking all you need is the adaptor plate and to modify the bolt pattern on your EA flex-plate to bolt up to the EJ crank. The engine will drop right in and sit there as if it were designed to do so.
Cooling system modifications will be needed - some fiddling with radiator hoses and it's a huge benefit to have 1.5" inlet/outlet soldered into the EA radiator tanks. Fans have to go in front of the radiator to make room for the larger engine. Power steering lines just bolt up, etc.
GD
Awesome, that's the best thing I've heard in two months! After having read over the writeup again, can the XT6 flywheel be bolted on just the way it is to my EJ engine? Wasn't sure what the story is with that, or whether it also needed to be redrilled in the same manner, or if the clutch kit from it can be used in the same manner to perhaps reduce strain on the EA82 tranny since it's referred to being used for "street cars".
Also, erm, flex plate should otherwise be equal to a flywheel, if I'm not mistaken? In either case, thank you again for your time, GD.
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If I were you - I would pull the EA82 and reseal it properly - get your gaskets from the dealer and replace applicable one's like the oil pan with something like Anearobic or RTV. You CAN make them leak free long-term. I've done it for people before.
I touched on this subject in the reply to Gloyale. The EJ engine also appears to be the relatively same weight as the EA's... So I'm only trying to find out what actual "modifcations", physically, need to be made to the Loyale in order to make it work.
As for the wiring, I'm not deterred by it. It's just a matter of taking the time and, as the PDF says, getting down to what is "necessary" to make it work, properly, and not rushing the final outcome. It's been two months to lead me to this decision, and I've already put down the garage space to get the cars in there.
I just need to know what works with what from the engine to the rest of the Loyale, specifically. Nothing else really matters entirely, and I greatly appreciate you guys taking the time out to answer these questions.
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Almost nothing is a "bolt on" swap.
You can mate the 2.2 to your 5spd, but you will need an adapter plate, and a redrilled 5spd flywheel.(redrilled to fit on the EJ22)
It will be totally reliable, as long as you can resist lots of full throttle launches. Hammer on it hard, and the 5spd won't hold up long.
You should read the EA to EJ swap sticky thread.
I did read the sticky thread, which is the only reason I asked about the mating the two together. I also know about the adapter plate, it's the precise reason I asked. The thing is, my Loyale's engine and tranny are both very rough. They "function", but at 67K? I'd rather have the 2.2L with 117K that I did the timing belts at 70K on when I got it. I'd rather have that engine in the car I often receive 450 miles from a tank of gas in out of the same 12 gallons (IE, I don't often put more than a quarter or half throttle down... I stopped racing years ago...)
Obviously things are going to have be tweaked a bit, like the spare tire holder under the hood for example... Or the part about the engine mount bolts needing to be bent a certain way... Having different cooling fans... I mean I'm not beyond knowing these things... But does it just otherwise nestle down in there when mated to that tranny? That's the question I really need answered.
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what is in your Loyale? a/t or manual?
if you are willing to take and strip down your legacy for the swap, go for it.
Having a running parts car is what I want to do it when I finally end up doing an EJ in my wagon.
what questions are you trying to have answered exactly?
Both cars are FWD... The Loyale is a 5 speed, and the Legacy is a 4EAT. This swap is not going to be used for a 4WD conversion, either, and I'd like to do as little cutting/fabricating as possible, as this is my first swap.
I understand the long laundry list of parts that would need swapped -- but are they truly "bolt up" to the Loyale?I know of what could be involved... I'm really simply looking for a short list of what can be swapped from one car to the other, based on the above. From the suspension to, well, anything that would really need beefed up.
I'm beginning to be inclined to keep the Loyale's transmission, though, I'm most concerned if it will hold up against the 2.2L's powerbands without eating the transmission. This is only a technology swap with an emphasis on reliability in the long term, and I'm not trying to increase my power in any way.
Over all else? I'm not fixing the Legacy. I hit a deer with it and creased the engine rail. Sure it drives fine, but, I'm already noticing it starting to warp, and the door's are starting to close funny. So once I'm done with the swap, whatever's left is going... Pfft. Anywhere. Hell I'd even be open to parting it out if anyone needs what's left.
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Okay. Between the serious lack of gasket longevity in my Loyale's 1.8 motor, and the transmission problems of the 4EAT in my 92 Legacy, I really need some advice on what can be swapped between the two cars. I prefer the reliability I've seen in the 2.2 in mine, and it really seems in my best interest to invest in taking the swap solely for that purpose alone...
I understand the long laundry list of parts that would need swapped -- but are they truly "bolt up" to the Loyale? Moreso, does the generation I have's 5 speed tranny have some sort of control unit? I'm told the 4EAT does and that it would be otherwise painful to incorporate that into my swap.
I'm just looking for some answers. They'd be greatly appreciated.
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New to forum, been peering into it for bits of information regarding anything involving early nineties Loyales and Legacies. Presently, I have a 92 Legacy FWD 4EAT sedan (2.2L, 117K) and a 93 Loyale 5MT (66K, 1.8L TBI model).
I've seen plenty of people use the transmission from the Loyale against the EJ22, usually based on simply having a donor car like in my case, and that the only parts I would have to buy is the EJ to EA adapter kit, and the clutch set for the EA transmission... Well, except for gauges and the like.
1) what other transmissions can be used like that without fabrications or modifications?
2) What else can I salvage off my Legacy to use on the Loyale to improve it, parts wise?
There might be other questions based on what answers I get from this, and I know everything about both cars. I've owned the Legacy for about 3 years, and the only reason I'm otherwise scrapping it is the tranny began to lose gears recently, and I'm not sure how easy or cost effective it is to fix that as opposed to just swapping it over.
Any input is appreciated, thanks!
Projector lenses into GL/Loyale buckets
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Oh wow, this looks excellent! Almost like it were made that way.