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  1. I'm not sure I can help, but with no replies yet I can hear you twisting in the wind and feel your pain.

    One of the wonkiest faults I've dealt with was after swapping a new motor into a '99 Outback.  I won't relate the whole saga, but cut to the money shot.  I'd managed to leave untightened the most obvious ground, which is also the one that's not documented in the factory manual:  The one on top of the intake, next to the coil pack.  The symptoms were that the 3-4 shift point kept drifting all over the place and it was throwing all kinds of spurious TCU errors e.g. complaining about not being able to commmunicate with the ECU.  Bad grounds will kick your @$$.

    You've tried the ECU swap.  If you can lay your hands on a spare TCU (I'm lucky enough to have a couple of very cheap self-serve yards nearby) you might learn something by swapping it in.

    But the "no crank" thing is a different level altogether - that's not a complicated circuit.  If the connections are good, there's not much left other than battery, starter, and keyswitch.  Can you force it to crank by applying +12 to the solenoid input?

  2. On 2/3/2011 at 7:18 PM, Camaro98 said:

    You're right about the the gear numbers; those are the same ones I got. My transmission code is TZ1A3ZC2AA-P8. I found a salvage yard nearby today that has a transmission with matching numbers for $690.00. 124k miles.

    I know it's not much compared to having it rebuilt (I was quoted $2500 CDN), but pretty dear compared to the self-serve yards here.

    Spring '17 I replaced the 4EAT in my '99 Forester - found an exact match in the boneyard.  It was a rough afternoon dropping it on my own (I'd had a major rotator cuff repair - graft - only a few months before and was trying really hard not to trash it, and it was a blazing hot/dry day and I'd forgotten my water bottle...), but it cost $135 ($100 USD today) and worked a champ - until the car was nailed by a deer a year later.

     

  3. Figured I'd close the loop on this.  Issue resolved.  There was a PEBTAC (Problem Exists Between Tool and Chair) component in that I (inexplicably) had the top and middle rings swapped.  Yeah, stupid, but I don't think it caused the trouble.  It was simply that there was a little tiny ridge on the chamfer that was catching the ring, and with each tap of the piston the ring just made it a little bigger.  I still don't get what originally caused the ridge to form, but once I dressed it off with a little emery cloth (and corrected the ring order, of course), all four seated in just fine.

     

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  4. You're not missing anything.  The parts store doesn't have any magic, just a voltmeter like yours.

    I mean, if someone had a reason to really characterize an alternator, he'd have a test jig that could spin it at selected RPMs and a variable load so a determination of the power (that is, both the voltage and current) the DUT (device under test) can deliver at specified speeds and loads could be made.  But you don't need to do that, and presumably the parts store can't either.

     

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  5. Sure, but overcharging can cause battery failure, and it sounds like you're nearing the upper limit.

    To answer your earlier speculation, there really aren't any "components" within a regular lead-acid battery other than plates and acid.  But charging at too high a voltage will mess up the cell chemistry, alter the plates, and boil away the acid.  If it were me I'd be fetching an alternator from the boneyard rather than risking messing up a new battery.

     

     

  6. It's worth mentioning too that an excellent long-term investment (in addition to the basics, like a DVM and battery charger) is a load tester.

    Not just useful at home for diagnosing these sorts of problems, but the only way to find a good battery at a self-serve junkyard.  I haven't spent full pop for a battery in many years, and we need good ones, since -40 is not unusual around here in the winter.

     

  7. Well, 13.5 (or not too much more) is okay - that's what a 12V lead-acid requires for charging.

    Thing is, rp2813 is reporting somewhat intermittent behaviour, so while the voltmeter may say it's fine while it's in the driveway, 20 miles down a bumpy road may be a different matter.  A tanked alternator is easy; to manually induce the failure in an intermittent one not so much.  That's why, if it's reading >13.5V in the driveway, the best way to determine whether it's at fault is to replace it, keep driving, and see if the problem reappears.

    But there's no disagreement here - all of the above answers are correct.

     

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  8. 1 minute ago, nipper said:

    Before we go nuts on diagnostics, has anyone pulled out a voltmeter to actually check the charging voltage and battery voltage?

    If I was to take a wild guess it sounds like your alternator has crapped out. What you describe is typical of running off the battery.

    Perfectly valid point.  My experience with alternator failures has been "sudden death" rather than intermittent behaviour, but there's no reason it couldn't be the latter (e.g. a flakey regulator).

    The only problem is that it's harder to "force" alternator misbehaviour than it is to wiggle a bad connection.  Best (cheap and easy) way to debug it is to drop in a replacement alternator (esp. from the junkyard) and see if the symptoms recurr.

  9. That all these functionally-unrelated systems are failing at the same time points to a global electrical fault - as the previous posters suggested, portions of the circuit that are common to pretty much everything.

    Get the FACTORY TSM schematic, follow the lines, then (and I know this is going to sound really unscientific) start wiggling stuff.  That the radio is failing should be a big help - you can turn it on, lift the hood, and push wires around (and remove/reinsert relays and fuses) until you replicate the failure.  As suggested, the problem is probably in the main power distribution area.   (A few months ago I chased down a similarly transient failure in my 2002 Forester ABS - it was caused by a corroded fuse termination in the fuse/relay box.)  As you remove each fuse and relay, look down into the terminals, and if they aren't clean and bright you're probably getting close.

    This is very much a DIY thing, because chasing down intermittent electrical failures is more a job for time and patience than it is of skill, and you could easily get into thousands worth of shop time if it's a nasty one.

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  10. 15 hours ago, GeneralDisorder said:

    Well my compressor is the exact size of the bore (99.50mm). So when it leaves the compressor the ring snaps neatly into that chamfer., which guides it into the bore. I had problems with tech's folding over the oil control ring wipers with those inexpensive sleeve compressors. Now we use the tapered compressors exclusively and have them for a variety of bore sizes for different engine applications. Company 23 makes an adjustable tapered ring compressor also that is useful for weird overbore sizes. 

    I think I have the picture.  I'm not doing anything wrong - I just think I have to finesse this thing a little by dressing the chamfer and adding some lube.

    15 hours ago, GeneralDisorder said:

    Thanks for the history lesson. I recognized the 5.25's from my early days of software engineering. Those were mostly outmoded by the 3.5's when I was learning assembly back in high school. 

    GD

    Heh - I think that dates us.  My first assembly course was PDP-11 (useful when I started working with 68000s later), a night course I took a year or two after I got out of high school.  Our instructor was a hard case who wouldn't actually let us use the assembler - he made us hand-assemble all the code to make sure we understood the relative branch calculations.  Then the object got entered via front panel bit switches.  Oh, happy days...

  11. 14 hours ago, GeneralDisorder said:

    Oh yeah that little taper is normal.

    Perhaps I should word the question differently:  If the taper is normal, and your compressor sits on top of the block, how come your rings don't hang up in the chamfer when you insert them?

    Is my chamfer too rough and in need of a little polishing, should I be greasing it up with assembly lube so the ring will slide down it into the cylinder, or both?

  12. You're missing the point - the chamfer at the top of the cylinder is a larger ID than both the cylinder wall and the compressor, and thus forms a space for the ring to snap into as soon as it leaves the compressor.  That's where I'm getting stuck.

    That's the style of compressor I'm using - with the little clutch.

    I'm wondering whether surface roughness of the chamfer is the problem, and maybe whether smoothing it a little with emery paper might be enough to let the ring slide down.

     

  13. 11 hours ago, nvu said:

    are you using the ratcheting sleeve compressor?  place the piston face up on a flat surface, place the compressor over it and lightly tension it down making sure everything remains square.  pick both up and put it them on the block, tap it so the skirt protrudes into the block and the rings are around the last tension band.  lightly tap around the top of the compressor and tension a bit more.  make sure it's squared and centered.  the piston should slot in with moderate tapping.

    No, not ratcheting, just a couple of cheapies.  I'm thinking that may be the problem; at the same time, even if the compressor is perfect (e.g. the Wiseco GD mentioned) I still can't see why the ring wouldn't snap open as soon as it enters the chamfer and get trapped just like it is now.

  14. 13 hours ago, GeneralDisorder said:

    Oh yeah that little taper is normal. You probably need a better ring compressor. You did check ring gap on the new rings right?

    Of course - I'm just puzzled, not stupid.  Gap is well within spec (.018), and with it sitting in the chamfer I can see the gap i.e. it's not pinched shut.

    13 hours ago, GeneralDisorder said:

    That's not seriously a 5.25 floppy drive I see in the background is it? The horror!

    GD

    Hell yeah!  Those are a couple of old legacy PCs (DOS, NT, 2K) I keep around for various not-unreasonable reasons.  It's too unfocused to see, but the silver+blue plate over the drive nearest the cylinder is the nameplate from the service console for an ETA Systems supercomputer (CDC spinoff company circa late 80s).  You can see an ETA-10 get destroyed in the big computer room shoot-em-up in the first "Die Hard" - it's the Fluorinert-cooled box with the cool plastic dome on top.

  15. I'm sure that this is just me being an idiot, and that Someone Smart (tm)  like GD will straighten me out.

    I'm trying to install these EJ25 pistons with new rings.  Squeeze the rings in the compressor, position it, tap it down, and it stops dead before the piston and block tops are flush.

    The problem is that the cylinder has a slight chamfer at the top (about .010" larger than the cylinder bore) that extends down about .125", the compression ring is hanging up on it, and not ramping into the bore.

    Is there some trick I'm missing, like using a special thin ring compressor that will seat down into the chamfer rather than sitting up on the block's mating surface?

     

  16. On 11/19/2018 at 12:57 PM, idosubaru said:

    Technically your question gets a little confusing.  There may be more lower cogged idler failures than belt failures simply because some people/shops actually replace timing belts but not pulleys.  Even the dealer will commonly only replace a belt.  So this "poll" would start to compare unequal mileage components if you look at anecdotal reports.  

    You're quite right - without religiously changing everything at the same time (or keeping precise track of when - in operating hours, or miles, or whatever - the various components are changed) we can't get statistically significant MTTF/MTBF numbers.  But I suggest that "real world" numbers - derived from the results of people just changing the parts they think they "need" to - can be just as useful.

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    But to answer your question, when it comes to Subaru OEM parts:

    1. belt failure if it's never changed
    2. lower cogged idler failure - by far the most common failure.
    (In some ways #2 is 'more common' simply because in some circles people actually replace the belt but not the pulley - so 
    3. new style tensioner mechanism failure
    4. idler pulley failures

    What I find really interesting here (and everyone's experience seems to agree) is that the toothed idler fails at a much higher rate than the non-toothed ones.  They probably aren't replaced any less often, their construction is the same (I'm assuming that any given manufacturer will use the same bearings for both idler styles), and they all rotate at (more or less?) the same rate.  So what would account for the predominance of toothed idler failures?

  17. Of course, we all know we're supposed to do periodic timing kits, but we also know that procrastination runs high.

    Last summer (about a km from home - could have been a lot worse) I suffered my first timing failure on a '99 EJ25D.  We were just starting out on a trip down to Montana/Idaho for camping, sailing, and the eclipse.  When I did the post-mortem, I found it was the idler sprocket that had seized, shattering the right-side sprockets and cover.

    So I'm curious what the dominant failure cause is, or what the proportions of failures are across the idler pulleys, idler sprocket, water pump, tensioner, and the belt itself.

    A straw poll would be welcome.

     

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