Hey there everyone. I was hoping I could get some help with finding out what my gear ratio is. Well the story is I pick up this 1996 subaru legacy outback with a bad manual transmission. and I am having the hardest time finding out what my gear ratio is I mean I been looking almost no stop for the last 2 days.

The transmission code is ty752vabca and there is a 63 kn31 stamped on the rear diff. I found a used trans for 450 that has almost the same trans code it's just ends with bba will that work? Thanks everyone !

Here's the trans code to the 450 dollar TY752VABBA

Edited April 23, 201213 yr by 1995legacyAWD

96 manual trans Outback would have a 4.111 final drive ratio. For future reference http://www.northursalia.com/techdocs/trannychart/trannychart.html

From what I herd these 96 outbacks had 2 final drive ratio's 3.90 and 4.111

Edited April 23, 201213 yr by 1995legacyAWD

95 might have had the 3.90 ratio because it wasn't a true Outback yet. It was a glorified L model with some stickers. 96 was the first year for the true Outback it got the bigger wheels and tires, lift kit, taller struts, and it got the 4.11 Fdr to help the 2.2 engine get all that extra weight moving.

95 - 99 ej22 manual trans are all 3.9 ratio.

 

EDIT: EXCEPTION: the 96 manual trans outback came with the ej22 engine not the ej25 engine. so it ended up with the ''legacy'' ej22 engine but the outback ej25 trans = 4.11 ratio.

Edited April 24, 201213 yr by johnceggleston

Well now I am confused. is it 3.9 or 4.111? I don't want to burn out the transmission by getting the wrong one

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If it has a 2.5l engine and a hydraulic clutch it should have 4.11 gears.

It has the 2.2 my bad I should have posted that.It also has a clutch cable

I'm just as confused now as you. No more guessing. We's gonna get to de bottom uh dis.

 

From Opposedforces.com Subaru parts listings:

http://opposedforces.com/parts/legacy/us_b11/type_44/manual_transmission/transmission_assembly/illustration_1/

1 Manual transmission assembly 1

32000AD610

 

TY752VABCA

Usage info by build date:

Part usage information

USA

LEGACY B11

Usage information

Date Body Engine Train Transmission Grade Suspension

'95, June — '95, December WAGON (Step roof) 2200CC SOHC NA FULLTIME 4WD Manual transmission OUTBACK Normal suspension

'96, January — '96, May WAGON (Step roof) 2200CC SOHC NA (NEW EVAPO) FULLTIME 4WD Manual transmission OUTBACK Normal suspension

http://opposedforces.com/parts/info/32000AD610/

 

And the transmission specification page from the 1996MY FSM.

 

Looks to me like your transmission code was available in the MY1996 Legacy Outback w/ 2200cc engine produced between June, 1995, and May, 1996.

MY1996 FSM says Outback model ( * ) w/ 2200cc engine and manual transmission, has Front and Rear reduction gear (differential) ratios of 4.111.

Now we all know.

sorry for any confusion i may have contributed to the this thread. i have edited my post above to show the ONE exception to the rule.

 

thanks to fairtax for seeing through the fog of confusion.

 

95 - 99 ej22 manual trans are all 3.9 ratio.

exception, the 96 ej22 manual trans outback had the 4.11 ratio. this it the only time suabru offeer the ej22 with an outback. the 95 was just s trim level, a look, for the lagacy, not really an outback with raised roof, taller struts, and larger tires.

 

look your car up on opposedforces.com/parts and look for your ring and pinion under the train section. you have a 3.9 ratio.

95 - 99 ej22 manual trans are all 3.9 ratio.

(except for the 96 outback manual trans.)

 

2.5L cars w/ manual trans are different. they have 4.11 ratio, 96 - 99.

Edited April 24, 201213 yr by johnceggleston

The transmission code is ty752vabca

this is a legacy trans and it has a 3.9 ratio. your car has the ej22 engine.

 

I found a used trans for 450 that has almost the same trans code it's just ends with bba will that work?

this is an outback trans, not a legacy trans. this car has / had the ej25 engine (unless it was a 96, then it had the ej22) and it has the 4.11 ratio.

Edited April 24, 201213 yr by johnceggleston

hmm That's interesting. You think my outback would have a outback trans not a legacy trans.Well I am glade you pointed me in the right direction because I was just about to buy that transmission because I herd all 96 legacy outback had 4.111 gearing.....It must have been a special order or something.

John where did you find the info about that trans number?

I don't see anywhere that says an Outback would/could have come with a 3.90 ratio.

The parts usage info links above clearly show that trans number as being for an Outback.

i picked it up trough observation, with auto trans numbers.

 

i needed a trans for my 95 lego and i started studying the trans numbers. in those day the thinking was that you could use a trans from another year, but you would need the TCU as well. and maybe the rear diff to be sure it would work.

 

over time it became apparent what would fit and what would not. but the real break through came when i realized that ALL 96 - 98 ej25 auto trans had a 2 in the 7th position (right after the second 'Z'.) this became the ''ratio'' indicator.

 

and then some one stated that the ''last 2 '' position indicate the model. BA is outback, this is true for both legos and impreza 96 - 99. usually AA is lego, and at times CA is GT. so it just takes a little time to start listing all the different trans numbers available.

 

the other telling info is / was, ALL 90s AWD auto trans start with TZ102Zxxxx , FWD are TA102Axxx.

 

so if the first 6 are the trans, and the last 2 are the model, it only leaves 2 to be different. pos # 7 (in the 90s) was engine / diff indicator, ej25 = 4.44 ratio. and the 8th pos. indicates the progression, outbacks go TZ102Z2ABA = 96, ...Z2CBA = 97, Z2DBA = 98. (imprezas use a number there i think.)

 

(in truth, the last 2 are probably NOT model indicators, but speedo gear indicators. the outback, GT and Legacy of the 90s have different speedo gears due to the different tire size combinations and maybe ratios? but the outbacks all are BA and they all (autos) have the 4.44 ratio and 205/70/15.)

 

i have not studied the 5 speeds as much, i never found a pattern to the ratio 7th pos. but i'm not a 5 speed guy and didn't really have a need to know. and when i last looked i didn't have opposedforces to use. and now it matters less since there are so many ways and folks to confirm ''will this trans match?''.

 

my statement posted above that BA = outback trans is just an educated guess.

 

my guess is if you list all the trans code numbers for the 90s 5 speeds from opposedforces, not from the ''trans list'' that is out there, (it has errors) or any gen for that matter, you will see a pattern. it is just too confusing for a corporation to assign numbers at random. but who knows, anything is possible.

Edited April 25, 201213 yr by johnceggleston

Man you can sure confuse yourself by looking at all these ratio's haha So my outback has a 4.11 F/D and the 98 Forester transmission I have is 4.11 but why the change for just 5th gear?

 

Seeing how cheap it is for a rear diff with a VLSD (meh) I might as well throw one on after I put the transmission in.. I figure I'd get one off maybe an '05 Legacy

 

*edit kept my service manual from when I had my 95 legacy wow.. it had a 3.90 ratio and a 2.2 that's why it felt a little gutless taking off sometimes

Edited May 16, 201213 yr by 1-3-2-4

Thank for reminding me on the service manual I am going to look for one right now...Also if me and my buddy pulled off the trans this weekend and this trans is in fact a 3.90 and the trans is fine it's the clutch that blew up