rweddy Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 I am in the middle of replacing my timing belt, and the last time it was done on my car they did not put the timing belt guard back on, so it is not there. Is this really necessary? I know these are only on manual cars, and I have not had it on mine for the last 60k but wanted to know anyone’s thoughts on this. Do I have to have it since autos do not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeinmd Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 The gaurd is there to prevent the belt from loosening and potentially jumping out of time, if the the engine is forced to rotate backwards (e.g., if the car rolls backwards in a forward gear with the engine off). (This will happen only with a manual). I would advise replacing it to be safe. -- George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 The guard doesn't keep the belt from loosening. The tensioner does that. The guard/covers just keep dirt and other junk from getting on the belt. This is assuming we're talking about the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 I think he is not Josh. There was a little guard on some manual models that I understood was to keep you from jumping timeing on sudden engine speed changes or the back force when the manual does engine braking. The fact that Subaru fitted a fix for this means somebodty had trouble with it. If I had it or could get it easily I would put it on, especially for high performance use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeinmd Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 A little curved piece of metal partially surrounding and just larger than the crank sprocket that keeps the belt from jumping off. -- George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Hmm....I've seen no mention to it in any of the factory manuals, or parts manuals. I'll have to take a closer look at the parts book tonight. Anyone have a picture of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 A lot of times a fix does not make the manuals. I have only seen one of these in a wrecking yard once and probably would not have noticed but for the fact I have seen them mentioned here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subie Gal Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 the only thing i see that can be as described is quite possibly the tensioner bracket/cover if you dont have this, you'd best get one. to confirm... go here: https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/oe_parts_cat.html look up by part number - - 13156aa051 I believe that to be the piece that's being described here. Jamie Thomas Jamie at chaplins.com *************************** http://www.subiegal.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeinmd Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Well, hmm... here's what I THOUGHT it was: http://www.endwrench.com/pdf/engine/FtTimingBeltReplaceF00.pdf (fig. 6), but that's a 2.5. I don't see any reference to it on a 2.2: http://www.endwrench.com/pdf/engine/FtCamBeltReplaceW01.pdf Sorry if I muddied the waters... George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 I dont remember having seen that part when I replaced the belt on my car (2.2L). But my memory is not what it used to be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 and it may have been later models. How is your wife doing Frag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 and it may have been later models. How is your wife doing Frag? Fine, thank you. Everything is developping according to the best scenario up to now. And a happy new year to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Don't tell me Canadians recognise the new year? When I lived in Maine St. George was the place to go for New Years. I remember a nice policeman driving me around the day after trying to find which bar parking lot I had left my car in. Over here the cop would just tell you to get lost with your hangover. Happy New year to you and yours, and glad to hear things are well with your mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rweddy Posted December 29, 2005 Author Share Posted December 29, 2005 I think he is not Josh. There was a little guard on some manual models that I understood was to keep you from jumping timeing on sudden engine speed changes or the back force when the manual does engine braking. The fact that Subaru fitted a fix for this means somebodty had trouble with it. If I had it or could get it easily I would put it on, especially for high performance use. That is the one, I tried to get one from the junk yard but looks like older 2.2 do not have them?? I ended up just putting it back together and will live dangerously!! I figure since older 2.2 and auto do not have this, I can live without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
color-blind Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 I am in the middle of replacing my timing belt, and the last time it was done on my car they did not put the timing belt guard back on, so it is not there. Is this really necessary? I know these are only on manual cars, and I have not had it on mine for the last 60k but wanted to know anyone’s thoughts on this. Do I have to have it since autos do not? Leave the guard off. It can actually do more harm than good. If it is not set up correctly the belt will rub against the gaurd. Then you will really have a nightmare on your hands. Take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I see no mention of anything like this for the first gen legacies/2.2. It may be on the 2.2 single exhaust port models, but there's nothing about it on the older 2.2's. Has anyone seen this fix/bracket on a first gen legacy? Jamie, any chance of getting a diagram/pic of what the piece looks like? What's the model & year application for that part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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