mikeamondo Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I've got a 1990 Sub. Legacy Wagon with 120k miles +or-, and when the weather is below 20 degrees or so, it has a serious problem starting. Actually, this also occurs sometimes on my '92 wagon, but it's not as severe. The car turns over, may fire and run for 1 sec. or so and dies. A couple times like that and then it backfires back through the aircleaner... If I can get it to catch, after several repeats of this proceedure, I can sometimes get it to run (very roughly), and by staying on the gas pedal, I can keep it lit long enough for it to warm up. Eventually, it will even out and run okay. The car is going into the shop today, but the weather is 30 degrees plus and the ole' boy started right up this morning. Mechanics' going to think I'm making it up! Anyway... does this sound like the idle air control that I've seen mentioned in other posts? What else should be worth trying if it comes back from the shop with a big "I dunno" from the mechanic? Any suggestions appreciated! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 The only thing that came to my mind is fuel. Are you perhaps getting your gas in both cars at the same stations? Might be a little watery. and/or your fuel filter could be full of watery goodness which might mess around with you once the mercury drops past freezing. just an idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeamondo Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Gas comes from a variety of stations.... Mechanic this morning thought it might be Air Mass Sensor related.... He also said new ones are $300+. Any ideas on the air mass thing? Sound right? Thanks, M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunered Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 sounds like the temp sensor to me,if it was fuel you would have the problem when it warmed up too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I'd start with a coolant temp sensor. They can slowly degrade with time and cause cold starting issues. Does the car start fine when the engine is warmed up...even if the ambient temps are cold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeamondo Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Yes... once warmed up, it starts and runs with no problems. --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa8jzdial Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Mike My daughters 1990 had what sounds like the same troubles. Ran fine if you satyed on the throttle til temp came up. The 'all knowing' fellows here pointed to among other things the idle air control valve. Took care of it just fine. I put a used one on from another 1990. Not sure but if you find one from a year or two newer you may find it is not quite the same. Sort of fuzzy on this but thought worth mentioning. gl rick w. mi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Yes... once warmed up, it starts and runs with no problems. --- Yeah, replace the coolant temp sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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