tjxtreme Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I have a '99 outback. I recently filled the tank, and next time I came to drive it, the fuel guage was resting on the stop pin past low. Thinking it could be stuck (I dont know how it works by the way), I turned the car off then back on. This time, the check engine light was on. I checked the fuel cap. I looked underneath the dash and noticed a green wiring harness that was disconnected and hanging down. One wire was black with a red stripe and the other was blue with gray dots. Could this be for the guage? On a similar note, my low fuel warning light went out (I think I ran it too low for too many times perhaps). Is this an easy fix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Is the green connector a T shaped connector....same/similar as the one in this pic? http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru/images/ecuhide.jpg If so, those are the diagnostic connectors, leave them disconnected. As for your problem with the gauge. It's possible the float is stuck or something is screwed up with the electrical connections. I'd start with the electrical. There's a connector under the passenger side rear seat. That's the fuel pump connector. You should be able to manipulate the low fuel light as well as gauge by grounding a pin with the key in the "ON" position. Same goes for the gauge. While I'm not sure if this diagram is the same for your car, it should at least give you an idea of what's going on. http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/FSM_Scans/fuel_sender_scan.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjxtreme Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Thanks, I'll try that first. The check engine light came on, and remains on, when the gauge broke- are the two related? I am used to the CEL turning back off after a few startups...or will it stay on until the gauge is fixed? Thanks again, Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2X2KOB Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 It is highly unlikely that the CEL and the fuel guage problem are directly related. Best bet is to pull the codes, an Autozone or equivalent will do this for free. What I'm trying to say is: The fuel quantity indication system is not one of the things that will trip a CEL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjxtreme Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Legacy777: I looked under the seat and found the connections (4), and what appeared to be fuel lines??? Can you explain this area in greater detail? I took a picture but then found I couldn't attach it. Thanks, Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Yeah I don't think the CEL & fuel gauge are connected. Definitely go get the codes pulled. Those should be brake lines running under the seat. Email the picture and I can host, jlegacy (at) surrealmirage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjxtreme Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 I got the code pulled at the store today: Codes- PO463 Fuel Level Sensor A Circuit High Input Pending Codes- PO463...etc. Legacy 777: I sent you the picture I took Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Here's the pic http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru/images/underseatfuelwiring.jpg Usually the wires are kept together with tape, but those look all messed up, like someone had been messing with them. I'd definitely try and find a wiring diagram for the fuel sender for your car and do some testing. This is for the legacy, but should be the same/similar for the outback http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/1999_Legacy_FSM/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjxtreme Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 I removed the cover for fuel sending unit access in the back driver's side. It turns out, the wires had completely frayed and broken off. I haven't tried yet, but I will reconnect them soon and hopefully be back in business. Any special precautions? I plan on reattaching them very well and wrapping with electrical tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 If the wire is intact, I would wrap each wire with electrical tape very well, and then wrap the wires together in electrical tape. If the wires aren't in good shape, you should splice in new wire. You may even want to put wiring loom around the wires I'd also wrap the wires going to the pump....the ones in the pic you sent me. Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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