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Help, before I break them! (Brat trim)

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I stuck removing two exterior trim items from my '85 Brat for paint prep. If someone could tell me how the following 2 pieces are removed I'd appreciate it:

 

1) The dummy side step on the lower portion of the rear fender. The actual step was simply 4 phillips but how about the other side (non-step)? Do I need to access something from the removable access panels in the bed?

 

2) The false louver pillar trim pieces directly behind the doors. Naturally the 2 phillips screws, but then it seems as if there's something in the center of the lover on the back side thats holding it in place. I looked behind the interior trim panel but nothing. Is it simply snapped into a clip? Do I pull straight out, or does it need to go back or forward. Don't want to break these 'cause I'm sure they're hard to find.

 

Thanks.

Can't help with the fake step piece..

 

But the trim panel on the side of the B pillar has 2 screws on the outside, and one screw from the inside. It's roughly half way between the 2 outside screws, and on the rib that's between the 2 open slots in the trim. You have to pull the interior trim piece to access that one.

 

I belive there was a hole thru the interior sheet metal to get to that one, but it has been awhile...

 

 

edit;

I can get a pic of the backside of that trim piece in a little while. I honestly can't say for sure how I removed them from the BRAT I parted out about 5 years ago, just don't recall the method used.

 

edit for pics;

http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/album.php?albumid=147

Edited by TomRhere
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