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#226 mellow65

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 12:22 PM

they dont know it yet but that starter is gonna blow the lid off the 2JZ crowd in a little bit, I been struggling with the starter arriangement for the GM tran /2JZ engine and the Sub starter is the key to building a good cheap adapter


well we're glad we could bring you into our warp misunderstood world of subarus and at least help you with your starter dilemma. :grin:

i know you probably wont ever get into them, but it's once you do your hooked. i have yet to really find something that is really that difficult to do on them. and everything damn near fits everything everything else. at least when it comes down to the mechanical bits.

my 93 impreza wagon is a combo of parts from about 8 different cars spanning from 1990-2004, everything from a simple legacy to a STI. it's beautiful how everything fit together. i think subaru just went with, if it's not broke, why change it. and i'm glad they did.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 10:14 AM

For everyone that may want one (like myself) what does this part cost IF you are still producing them.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 10:42 AM

For everyone that may want one (like myself) what does this part cost IF you are still producing them.


read back a few pages.he IS producing them right now.

it has been said that Mellow gets the first one of course.I am in line for the second one.cheers, b

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 07:53 PM

thanks i got tired of reading i was in a hurry

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 08:30 AM

For everyone that may want one (like myself) what does this part cost IF you are still producing them.


I am placing the starter now,the casting was tall enough but when machining the starter hieght it proved to be too short to use in a second casting, so I had to raise the starter deck and resize the starter hole, I had too larger of a starter pocket so it had to be changed


I sold some other housings I had in stock and had to machine them out so I been a little late with all the work

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 11:57 AM

well im in when they are available i dont know who all is in line bit id like one.

im going to kuwait this month for work but ill check this thread for updates

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 12:11 PM

I will set it up so anybody can oredr them when ever they want, I maintain the product lines after the r&d is done

as in with ham and eggs, the chicken is involved, the pig is committed

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 11:19 PM

well, to recap how this all works, I re used the original Subaru pilot bearing with a Toyota disc and the original Subaru flywheel

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now just as a reminder the W series includes the 2wd w55 through 59 model and the W series 4WD trans model, they are the same bolt up I re used the original Subaru pivot ball
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then I built the throw out bearing holder and matched a Nissian throw out bearing to the Sub pressure plate and I re used the original Subaro clutch fork

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then I added a treaded insert in the lower starter bolt hole so it can either be used or drilled out to be used with the 8 bolt Subaru engine, I re used the original Subaru starter I also re used the original Subaru slave cylinder and push rod in its original location
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and here is the first fully operational W series bellhousing with all the T 's crossed and all the I's dotted, its perfect >;o)
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Posted 16 March 2011 - 11:30 PM

whatcha think mellow?:banana:

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 11:35 PM

it's everything i dreamed it would be and more. :grin:

Bill is the man :banana::banana::banana:

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 11:38 PM

oh one last thing, and totally thinking ahead here, do you know the size of the bolts needed for the bell housing to tranny. My tranny i bought didn't have any and i wasn't sure if maybe you make your flange thicker or something.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 12:09 AM

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 12:24 AM

well, to recap how this all works, I re used the original Subaru pilot bearing with a Toyota disc and the original Subaru flywheel

Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image

now just as a reminder the W series includes the 2wd w55 through 59 model and the W series 4WD trans model, they are the same bolt up I re used the original Subaru pivot ball
Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
then I built the throw out bearing holder and matched a Nissian throw out bearing to the Sub pressure plate and I re used the original Subaro clutch fork

Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
then I added a treaded insert in the lower starter bolt hole so it can either be used or drilled out to be used with the 8 bolt Subaru engine, I re used the original Subaru starter I also re used the original Subaru slave cylinder and push rod in its original location
Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
and here is the first fully operational W series bellhousing with all the T 's crossed and all the I's dotted, its perfect >;o)
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 12:37 PM

when you are set up please let me know i fly to kuwait tomorrow and wont be able to check in all the time

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 01:20 PM

is the clutch cable bracket on top of the trans all the same? from early years?

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 01:22 PM

when you are set up please let me know i fly to kuwait tomorrow and wont be able to check in all the time


wish I could go with you, I was in st petersburg Russia when the wall came down .;o) ( true story) all I can do is keep updating my posts and you can watch me here

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 12:21 AM

if you have a secret clearance and mechanic skills/experience with the maxpro series you can...

im in kuwait and im waiting anxiously i talked to a fab shop and im gettin the legacy 4-linked.. i need that adapter so he can fab up the tranny mounts :grin:

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 03:57 AM

where will the shifters pop through would we need to cut the tunnel at all?

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 08:32 AM

this applies to all the toyota transmissions, this just happens to be an r 154 but it will work on the w series just as easy that long rod with the finger at the end of it is the key to building the remote shifter that is low enough to fit under the trans tunnel and move the shifter back as far as i wanted
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you can see here how the finger fits in the three shiftshafts to move the r 154 through all the different gear selections
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at the other end of the shaft away from the finger end i built this recepter at an angle in an attempt to keep the shaft low, i built this as a starter project, i will take the numbers i found here and continue to lower it further
i built a couple pillar blocks and found the correct numbers to build the shift ratio for the sideways motion in the shifter, it was about 72%

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i cut away the rear housing so i could see the shift motion in all gears, it shift as smooth as silk >;o)
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I can place your shifter anywhere you want it
Be carefull in Kuwait, they dont like us much

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 11:17 AM

I get that feeling often.. They are nuts here i wish i could carry my pistol here:rolleyes:

So the t case will be compensated too? you can make both match the subarus stock hole?

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 11:27 AM

I get that feeling often.. They are nuts here i wish i could carry my pistol here:rolleyes:

So the t case will be compensated too? you can make both match the subarus stock hole?


pretty much what he is building there is a way of relocating the shifter point on a 2wd, which should work with a 4x4 tranny, but wont take care of the transfer case.

there will be some work needed to be done on the side of the installer. if Bill was to give us 100% bolt in everything this thing probably would cost 10 times as much and the guy would never have a life because there would be so many different combos to figure out.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 11:28 AM

no, i have no idea where the shifter will be, that answer will come from mellow65 when he helps out with the R&D

you cant carry a weapon? I assure you all the nutz there have one, they shoot weapons just to say hello

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 11:35 AM

here's a side by side of a w58 and a subaru tranny with the input shafts lined up as good as i could do it.

i'm going to assume that the 4x4 and the 2wds tranny shifter is at about the same location.

or if bill would maybe throw a tape measure on the trans with the bell housing for a "from the back of the motor to shifter" measurement.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 11:48 AM

that's no problem my fab guy is just asking so im asking you.. i can do it:)

anyone know the motion of the movement of the tcase shifter? i might be able to install liner actuators (push button 4x4)

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 11:59 AM

how about this. i remembered seeing a pic with a T on it, so i counted, made some marks, and took a guess.

it's not exact, but it's in the ball park.

front of bell housing to trans shifter: 17"
front of bell housing to transfer case shifter: 22.75"

those are big ishes.


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