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#176 bill hincher

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 01:37 PM

i wanna do dirty things to that bellhousing.dirty , dirty things.like this.......... Posted Image


mid engine equal length driveshafts thats soooooooooooooooooooo kwuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul

well, this is the week for it, I should have had it done before this, I just let too many things distract me

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:18 PM

mine is front engine, but like someone that i put off time and time again told me.....move that engine back.i just did not think i could do it and make it fit .now, as i look at my front links , and oil pan....

they obviously were right.damnit.and if they read this. they will revel in it i am sure.

anyways.it wil have fairly non equal length driveshafts.the t-case is mounted almost in the middle, but the front suspension link is almost a full 1/3rd longer than the back to surpass the oil pan.BUT.....

super close to it though........cheers, b

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 01:16 PM

This has to bolt on the existing shifter hole on the trans, be no more then 1.25 inch high and give and exact 'feel' to the driver in both motion and distance of motion


Those of us interested in using this for 4WD use in lifted rigs won't have the same clearance issues. We could do perhaps with a simpler, hopefully easier to produce setup. Would 2 or 3 inches make it easier?

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 08:37 PM

Those of us interested in using this for 4WD use in lifted rigs won't have the same clearance issues. We could do perhaps with a simpler, hopefully easier to produce setup. Would 2 or 3 inches make it easier?


I will document the shifter as I go, there are many options at hand, that in itself is a problem because it tends to lead to distraction, there are two idea's in the mix.
first of all I build the narrow block 4G63 Mitsubishi turbo engine adapter to the R 154 Toyota tras suitable for the engine swap in the Starion Conquest, this application requires the low profile of the shifter and a short swing ' joy stick' style shifter handle
second is the longer shift handle required for a truck style shifter that comes stock on the original Toyota transmission, with a newly relocated mounting perch moved to the drivers convenience
either way, the shifter must be located so the driver takes its location and its function for granted, just like everybody that ever drove a car takes the brakes for granted, they work every time and we think nothing of it
There is nothing worse than working your rump roast off getting the transmission you want mounted in the car you want and having the shifter handle either under the dash or behind the front seats
Its like kissing your sister

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 12:02 AM

messed up my post >;o( sorry

Edited by bill hincher, 17 February 2011 - 07:59 AM.


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Posted 17 February 2011 - 12:10 AM

I dont know what I did here >;o(

This is the final sand, the housing on the left is built off of the original pattern on the right, but it is 1% smaller because of shrink when casted, many details were added and removed, all the demensions were checked and rechecked, now it goes into final casting

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the next step is to machine them out when I get them back
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Edited by bill hincher, 17 February 2011 - 07:58 AM.


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Posted 18 February 2011 - 10:23 AM

pure awesome........:banana:

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 08:57 AM

I need your adress mellow, I will be getting the first housing into your hands next week

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 12:32 PM

I need your adress mellow, I will be getting the first housing into your hands next week


I think the little school girl in me just screamed her little head off as if she just saw her favorite rock star. :clap::clap::clap:

i sent you a regular old email with my address.

thanks again Bill

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 02:44 PM

do you paypal?cheers, b

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 05:16 PM

yeah i got pay pal

and i got a bad rash too, ( comes back on me about every 30 days, the free clinic never saw anything like it) but I dont go 'on' about it

but whats that got to do with bellhousings?

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 11:46 PM

i gotta pay you some how.....can i have number 2?cheers, b

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 06:50 AM

yeah i got pay pal

and i got a bad rash too, ( comes back on me about every 30 days, the free clinic never saw anything like it) but I dont go 'on' about it

but whats that got to do with bellhousings?


It was 'mechanic humor' Manstaru, I was being funny, I just use my E mail account, I dont know anything about pay pal numbers you speak of

Mellow is invested heavily into this project, out of respect for that, I wanted to include his input on the project, there may be adjustments I am not aware of

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 01:40 PM

i'm not one to get offended, i've been a cement finisher for a long time.no greasemonkey can get the best of me:grin:


paypal is an electronic payment system......through these here internets.i just want one.....:lol:so i'm trying to close the deal!cheers, b

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 01:44 PM

It was 'mechanic humor' Manstaru, I was being funny, I just use my E mail account, I dont know anything about pay pal numbers you speak of

Mellow is invested heavily into this project, out of respect for that, I wanted to include his input on the project, there may be adjustments I am not aware of


wow, me part of the r and d, i feel honored.

i swear monstaru i wont do like awesome poses with the bell housing just to rub it in. like lounging in some lawn chairs having a drink, or going bike riding and laughing carelessly.

lol, ok i'm making myself laugh with the thoughts of doing that with a bell housing, so i may just do it now. :lol:

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 02:38 PM

I dont have an exact number for the unit, I keep my stuff in the $300.00 range, the only extra cost on this is the throw out bearing and collar I gotta build, so thats gonna add $100.00 on the unit , Mellow sent me the bellhousing I cut up, and a flywheel and a clutch with the clutch fork and pivot ball, so its only fair that I let him test this thing out


E mail me at japaneseauto1978@yahoo.com Monstaru and I will get the next unit out to you

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 11:24 PM

I keep trying to mount the remote shifter as low as possible on top of the trans, I dont want as little obstruction as possible

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I built a flange to mount the bridges accross and locate the new shifter rod, I keep moving peices back and forth, up and down trying to seek the lowest level and still maintain mechanical leverage
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originaly I wanted to place a window here to see the pin go in place but I dont know if it would be an advantage to anyone
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Posted 24 February 2011 - 11:51 PM

me likey.......cheers, b

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 11:58 PM

that's down right hot :slobber::slobber:

does it bother anyone that car parts can be almost as appealing as looking as women?

nah me either. :grin:

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 07:59 AM

that's down right hot :slobber::slobber:

does it bother anyone that car parts can be almost as appealing as looking as women?

nah me either. :grin:


would they be big beautiful,full figured wemen? with oral fixations and a very slow learning curve? maybe owned a liquor store?
could you be a litle more specific?

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 05:56 PM

would they be big beautiful,full figured wemen? with oral fixations and a very slow learning curve? maybe owned a liquor store?
could you be a litle more specific?


sure man, what ever floats your boat, all ladys need some loven. ;)

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 06:05 PM

ive discovered bill and i share the same tastes :D

good work man, in a few ill be oredering a bell house as well, im itching to put my legacy on 40 inch rubbers

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 10:05 PM

In the 4 bolt engine on the left the lower starter bolt is not in the block, in the 8 bolt engine on the right, the starter bolt goes all the way through, how should I arrainge the bellhousing to accept either set up? use a stud mounted in the housing? or thread the hole and allow the owner to drill it out if necessary?

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well here goes nothin, one full years work >;o) all good things for a man starts with a hole
they didnt get a clean edge on the facing, I had to cut this one too far, I need the adjust the pattern a bit thicker on the front facing
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I didnt have enough time to surface the trans side yet,I just mocked up the trans facing, I was just checking how much I could take off
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I was VERY happy with my locaters, the bolts fit in the proper place in each mounting, it may use one more shrink to get a little more definition
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Posted 25 February 2011 - 10:18 PM

this is how it is with the 4 bolt tranny

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what i have done when i used a 8 bolt trans on a 4 bolt motor was just tapped and heli coiled that hole and put the stud there.

i also have seen people just not run a lower bolt either. i know someone that did that for years. not how i like to fix problems, but it worked.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 10:24 PM

In the 4 bolt engine on the left the lower starter bolt is not in the block, in the 8 bolt engine on the right, the starter bolt goes all the way through, how should I arrainge the bellhousing to accept either set up? use a stud mounted in the housing? or thread the hole and allow the owner to drill it out if necessary?


i guess i should have read your whole post first :grin:

I would go with the threaded hole. These studs litter the junk yards, and even if you didn't run that bolt on an 8 bolt it's not the end of the world. but IF someone felt they needed to run it they could drill out the threads and put a bolt in there.

i have never found a difference between a 4 bolt and an 8 bolt starter in the way that they bolt on, so it would work for either with the stud there.




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