Jump to content


Welcome to Ultimate Subaru Message Board, my lurker friend!

Welcome to Ultimate Subaru Message Board, an unparalleled Subaru community full of the greatest Subaru gurus and modders on the planet! We offer technical information and discussion about all things Subaru, the best and most popular all wheel drive vehicles ever created.

We offer all this information for free to everyone, even lurkers like you! All we ask in return is that you sign up and give back some of what you get out - without our awesome registered users none of this would be possible! Plus, you get way more great stuff as a member! Lurk to lose, participate to WIN*!
  • Say hello and join the conversation
  • Subscribe to topics and forums to get automatic updates
  • Get your own profile and make new friends
  • Classifieds with all sorts of Subaru goodies
  • Photo hosting in our gallery
  • Meet other cool people with cool cars
Seriously, what are you waiting for? Make your life more fulfilling and join today! You and your Subaru won't regret it, we guarantee** it.

* The joy of participation and being generally awesome constitutes winning
** Not an actual guarantee, but seriously, you probably won't regret it!

Serving the Subaru Community since May 18th, 1998!

Guest Message by DevFuse
 

Photo
- - - - -

set up the timing belt correctly but still back fires wont start


  • Please log in to reply
71 replies to this topic

#51 MilesFox

MilesFox

    Catch this Fox!

  • Members
  • 10,611 posts
  • Madison/Milwaukee, WI

Posted 30 December 2010 - 01:04 PM

If you are overheating, then parhaps this car had a blown headgasket as the reason for it being a free car to you.

Make sure to check for either steam out the tailpipe, milkshake in the oil, or bubles in the radiator.

If you have coolant in the oil, and it hasnt mixed, you would get coolant to come out if you drained the oil, since the oil floatson top.

You mightbe able to get by with a can of block sealer, at least in the case of bubbles in the radiator or steam out the tailpipe.

If you have milkshake, its time to pull the heads.

But don't rule out bad intake gaskets, as this will create a gross vacuum leak, or introduce coolant into the intake and therefore lose it out the tailpipe, and will simulate a blown HG by its symptoms, except that there will be no effect on the compression.

#52 soobies

soobies

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 79 posts
  • anaconda montana

Posted 30 December 2010 - 01:15 PM

no antifreeze in oil or milkshake just looks a little foamy in the radiator
could be a air pocket in the rad , or plugged up radiator ..
will dig into some more when the weather is better i am being hammered by snow storm

#53 MilesFox

MilesFox

    Catch this Fox!

  • Members
  • 10,611 posts
  • Madison/Milwaukee, WI

Posted 30 December 2010 - 01:23 PM

Have you had to add coolant, or are you just running the coolant that was in it? was the radiator or hoses apart on it at any time? It could just be air in the system.

1. burp all the air out and add coolant. Use a new thermostat
2. look for bubbles in radiator after burping
3. compression check to verify low compression
4 if no, you should be good with one more burp. if yes, try a can of block sealer(using clean water to apply, after flushing out all coolant, and follow the directions on the bottle

if that doesn't do it, then prepare to pull the heads.

#54 soobies

soobies

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 79 posts
  • anaconda montana

Posted 30 December 2010 - 01:33 PM

whalla! heres my car i am working on :headbang:
my pic is not that great, taken from my phone... wish i could do better

Attached Files


Edited by soobies, 30 December 2010 - 01:39 PM.


#55 Loyale 2.7 Turbo

Loyale 2.7 Turbo

    The Mighty "BumbleBeast"

  • Members
  • 5,863 posts
  • Roatán, Honduras.

Posted 30 December 2010 - 01:46 PM

Yes, your Engine is Missing some Parts, let me explain it Better...

#56 soobies

soobies

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 79 posts
  • anaconda montana

Posted 30 December 2010 - 01:53 PM

ok thank you very much loyale. :)
at least i am mechinally inclined and i am pretty much on track getting it fixed

#57 Loyale 2.7 Turbo

Loyale 2.7 Turbo

    The Mighty "BumbleBeast"

  • Members
  • 5,863 posts
  • Roatán, Honduras.

Posted 30 December 2010 - 01:53 PM

...Look at the Round Circle I Drew in your Picture:

Posted Image

#58 Loyale 2.7 Turbo

Loyale 2.7 Turbo

    The Mighty "BumbleBeast"

  • Members
  • 5,863 posts
  • Roatán, Honduras.

Posted 30 December 2010 - 01:55 PM

There, in those four Screws, a Clutch fan must be Placed. is Missing.

You can grab one at a Junk Yard, along with its Cover.

#59 soobies

soobies

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 79 posts
  • anaconda montana

Posted 30 December 2010 - 02:00 PM

yeah thats what i thought i was thinking it doesnt look right when i got it cause i was thinking something is missing and i was wondering why one fan is over there and one big area with no fan in there ill have to run to the junk yard to find one
possibly pull off all the parts out of there just in case like fi throttle body , and some misc stuff
other than that it runs good above 1500 rpm but falls on its face if i hammer it so has to be a air leak somewhere or something is off somewhere

#60 Loyale 2.7 Turbo

Loyale 2.7 Turbo

    The Mighty "BumbleBeast"

  • Members
  • 5,863 posts
  • Roatán, Honduras.

Posted 30 December 2010 - 02:01 PM

Here, a More easy-to-Look View:

Posted Image

Around all Empty area goes a Fan Cover for the Missing Fan.

#61 soobies

soobies

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 79 posts
  • anaconda montana

Posted 30 December 2010 - 02:03 PM

Here, a More easy-to-Look View:

Posted Image

Around all Empty area goes a Fan Cover for the Missing Fan.


gotcha.. im heading to the junk yard to find one that is probably why i am overheating

#62 Loyale 2.7 Turbo

Loyale 2.7 Turbo

    The Mighty "BumbleBeast"

  • Members
  • 5,863 posts
  • Roatán, Honduras.

Posted 30 December 2010 - 02:04 PM

...possibly pull off all the parts out of there just in case like fi throttle body , and some misc stuff ...


That's Good Idea.

To address a Vacuum Leak, just Spray Carb Cleaner around and see if the Idle increases / Decreases.

But first I Kindly Suggest you to put the Missing fan there to Avoid dangerous Overheating.

Kind Regards.

#63 soobies

soobies

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 79 posts
  • anaconda montana

Posted 30 December 2010 - 02:07 PM

yeah thats first thing i am going to do is get a fan on there then
trouble shoot the engine

#64 NorthWet

NorthWet

    Eeyore Incarnate

  • Members
  • 5,039 posts
  • Bremerton, WA

Posted 30 December 2010 - 02:10 PM

On USA specification cars, there typically is NOT an engine driven fan there unless it has air conditioning or is a turbo model.

The good news is that without that fan there (and probably without A/C) you can do a pretty quick check if the radiator is plugged. These radiators typically plug in horizontal bands across the radiator, so when it is warm (t-stat is open) you can run your palm across the radiator core top to bottom, looking for areas that feel cold when others feel hot.

#65 soobies

soobies

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 79 posts
  • anaconda montana

Posted 30 December 2010 - 04:01 PM

did a vaccum test everything looks fine and no engine idle increase or decrease with a carb cleaner even along the intake and every where i could find with hoses so it has to be something else maybe the iac or something that is not working right
new fan installed, still over heat will pull other parts off from another car throttle body and radiator and other things i might will need

#66 Loyale 2.7 Turbo

Loyale 2.7 Turbo

    The Mighty "BumbleBeast"

  • Members
  • 5,863 posts
  • Roatán, Honduras.

Posted 30 December 2010 - 04:10 PM

... it has to be something else maybe the iac or something that is not working right ...


I Agree... is Good Idea to Test some Parts from the Junk Yard, such as the Radiator and the MAF ... I Believe that you are in Good Path now.

Good Luck!

#67 soobies

soobies

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 79 posts
  • anaconda montana

Posted 05 January 2011 - 03:58 PM

the subaru is running perfectly replaced maf it didnt work correctly then slapped on the spfi all from a junk yard and its running beautifully will not fall on its face when i stab the throttle but it has a minor quirks but driveable
the only issue i have right now is the radiator its plugged cold in middle
hot on top and bottom so will replace it and hopefully no more overheating problem

and one other thing is i cant figure out why is the parking lights still on when i turned all lights off
its staying on on the brake light and the side marker so i have to un hook battery so it will not kill the battery

Edited by soobies, 05 January 2011 - 04:01 PM.


#68 NorthWet

NorthWet

    Eeyore Incarnate

  • Members
  • 5,039 posts
  • Bremerton, WA

Posted 05 January 2011 - 05:19 PM

...and one other thing is i cant figure out why is the parking lights still on when i turned all lights off
its staying on on the brake light and the side marker so i have to un hook battery so it will not kill the battery

Welcome to Subarus! The parking lights are on because of a rocker-switch on top of the steering column... affectionately referred to as the "virgin switch". This allows you to keep the parking lights on when the ignition is off.

#69 soobies

soobies

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 79 posts
  • anaconda montana

Posted 05 January 2011 - 10:05 PM

Welcome to Subarus! The parking lights are on because of a rocker-switch on top of the steering column... affectionately referred to as the "virgin switch". This allows you to keep the parking lights on when the ignition is off.


hrm... ill check on the top of the column

#70 Loyale 2.7 Turbo

Loyale 2.7 Turbo

    The Mighty "BumbleBeast"

  • Members
  • 5,863 posts
  • Roatán, Honduras.

Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:22 AM

...slapped on the spfi all from a junk yard and its running beautifully ...


I'm Glad to Read that you Fixed it... Another Good Old Subie on the Road! :headbang:

#71 soobies

soobies

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 79 posts
  • anaconda montana

Posted 06 January 2011 - 12:44 PM

i called it done too soon!
back to running rough but driveable

#72 soobies

soobies

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 79 posts
  • anaconda montana

Posted 06 January 2011 - 06:36 PM

busted a hose on upper on left the parking lights is solved and i feel like an idiot now it will not kill my battery.. i didnt know until someone posted on here saying check the top column on the sub.. now the lights are off




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users