mtnman38 Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 OK heres the deal the tranny shifts clean, up and down, has good responsivness But as you increase your speed the noise gets louder and louder Does not change or variate just getts louder . Does not change with manipulatoin of the clutch. I put the car up in the air and ran it. (all at idiol speed) the noise getts louder in each gear but does not stop or change upon clutch depression. Ive tried mutiple additive to no avail and its at the correct fluid level NO change in 4WD Any ideas or am I back to my market place post Thanks LT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahDL88 Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Does it shift easy in and out of 4wd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Check the diff fluid. Theres a dip stick for it, passenger side I believe. Then check the fluid for the tranny. This I think you need to remove a plug on the side to check, theres 2. One to use to fill and the other for draining. I'll go out and check mine to make sure. *Update - Thats the skinny. You will have to jack the car up and the plug is on the drivers side. The fluid should be up to the top hole. It takes 85W or 75W-90W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooziewhatsit Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Check the diff fluid. Theres a dip stick for it, passenger side I believe. Then check the fluid for the tranny. This I think you need to remove a plug on the side to check, theres 2. One to use to fill and the other for draining. I'll go out and check mine to make sure. *Update - Thats the skinny. You will have to jack the car up and the plug is on the drivers side. The fluid should be up to the top hole. It takes 85W or 75W-90W. how did I not know this? This is on a loyale MT, I presume? I just looked at mine and found three similar looking bolts about 4-5 inches rear of the axle, are these them? I had thought the tranny/front diff shared fluid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 No, the diff and tranny do not share fluids. Thats to kinky :-p The "plugs" look just like that(they are innies, not outties), they need a square or hex head wrench to be removed. Sometimes a 1/2" drive rachet works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnman38 Posted March 14, 2005 Author Share Posted March 14, 2005 yea i found the same three boltts im going to open the top one so just fill it until the fluid coms out the hole right,, ARE any other subaru trannies like this ?? 4speed D/R 5 speed D/R back with details THANKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 All the manual trannies are like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooziewhatsit Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 No, the diff and tranny do not share fluids. Thats to kinky :-p The "plugs" look just like that(they are innies, not outties), they need a square or hex head wrench to be removed. Someyimes a 1/2" drive rachet works. ahh, so just like the rear diff plugs? \me runs off to take another look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnman38 Posted March 14, 2005 Author Share Posted March 14, 2005 Well the three bolts are on the same case as the distick so thats not them I could not see any bolts on the 4wd part just sensors for the dash cant find seperat filling holes checked the rear diff levels also all levels correct and still shes wineing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnman38 Posted March 14, 2005 Author Share Posted March 14, 2005 off to look again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85Sub4WD Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 umm - my 1985 FSM - it shows the front tranny and diff sharing the same fluid for the MT - AT they are seperate - this is for 4WD single and dual range - also the bolts you are refering to are supposed to be for retaining the shifting forks - removing them is not a good idea the drain is supposed to be located in the center bottom of the case - for both front diff and tranny - you are supposed to fill through the dipstick hole - the seperate holes (check and drain) are for AT only what the whine sounds like is a bad center bearing or a wheel bearing - is it comming from one side or the other? raise the car and put it into gear, and 4WD (all four wheels should be off the ground - go around with a stethoscope (with pointer on the end) and listen to each of the wheel bearings and the center bearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnman38 Posted March 14, 2005 Author Share Posted March 14, 2005 Ok I think that there is some confusion here Ilooked at two 4wd 5 speed trannies and I could not see any "innie bolt" now if your talking rear diff than yes they have been checked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnman38 Posted March 14, 2005 Author Share Posted March 14, 2005 ok off to check wheel bearings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85Sub4WD Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Ok I think that there is some confusion here Ilooked at two 4wd 5 speed trannies and I could not see any "innie bolt" now if your talking rear diff than yes they have been checked there are no "innie" bolts on the transmission - you check with the dipstick and that checks both fluids (well, there is only ONE fluid) look in ANY manual for your car, and it will tell you that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnman38 Posted March 15, 2005 Author Share Posted March 15, 2005 Ok not wheel bearing defenitly coming from trans any other ideas if not Refere to market place post wtb for speed push button Thanks all for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnman38 Posted March 15, 2005 Author Share Posted March 15, 2005 there are no "innie" bolts on the transmission - you check with the dipstick and that checks both fluids (well, there is only ONE fluid) look in ANY manual for your car, and it will tell you that Yea Thats what I thought but Turbones post threw me off I think that it just ggot confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Yup, thats what happens when you dont have the FSM in your lap Did you check the dip stick to see if theres any fluid in the trans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudisFun Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 So front (final gear box) and manual trans share the dip stick. The rear diff is checked by the 1/2 drive inverted plug. Or have I been that drunk Turbone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 No, you have it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royboy159 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Hey Mtn--- I'm guessing a wheel bearing. Any free play of the wheels? It could be a transaxle bearing but I've heard that's rare.:-\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnman38 Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 thanks to all I just ended up doing the whole swap and it fixed the problem imagine that HUH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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