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changing crank pulley /timing belt- please advise


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#1 greenleg88

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 11:53 AM

is there a difference between these two crank pulleys?

can i put a 2.5 one on my 2.2

what about the keys?

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 11:58 AM

they are interchangeable.

Edited by grossgary, 18 June 2009 - 12:01 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2009 - 10:24 PM

159k miles on automatic 97 legacy L (2.2)

so i pulled the pulley. i have a new one now..
just for references, this is what everything looks like...
does the cam gear need to get replaced as well?

does anyone think that key can just be straightened out or something... some trick.. ive never changed a timing belt, would need help or a walk through... plus get someone to help

the crank seal is leaking too i believe, so if the timing belt came off, i would probably make it a day project with a friend to change everything.


any experience tips or advice is appreciated.

http://img190.images...26/img1192g.jpg
http://img13.imagesh...53/img1191b.jpg

Edited by greenleg88, 18 June 2009 - 10:53 PM.


#4 OB99W

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 06:56 AM

does the cam gear need to get replaced as well?

does anyone think that key can just be straightened out or something... some trick.. ive never changed a timing belt, would need help or a walk through... plus get someone to help

From the pics:
1) You need a key
2) Can't tell for sure, but it probably wouldn't hurt to have a crank sprocket. The crank nose (especially the keyway) might have sustained damage, but getting things further apart could be necessary to tell. There are ways of dealing with that possibility.
3) The timing belt looks to be in rough shape. Besides changing it, there are other parts (idlers, tensioner, possibly water pump) that should probably be done at the same time. There are lots of previous threads here discussing that.


the crank seal is leaking too i believe, so if the timing belt came off, i would probably make it a day project with a friend to change everything.

When (not ''if'' :)) the t-belt gets changed, be sure to check for loose back plate screws on the oil pump, since that can cause the crank seal to leak.

2.2 Liter timing belt info:
http://endwrench.com...leOverWin01.pdf
http://endwrench.com...fs/2.2Liter.pdf
http://endwrench.com...BeltEWWin05.pdf

Motor Magazine series; starts with 2.2, then moves on to 2.5:
http://www.motor.com...s/072001_08.pdf
http://www.motor.com...s/082001_08.pdf
http://www.motor.com...s/092001_08.pdf
http://www.motor.com...s/102001_08.pdf
http://www.motor.com...s/112001_08.pdf

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 08:49 AM

When (not ''if'' :)) the t-belt gets changed, be sure to check for loose back plate screws on the oil pump, since that can cause the crank seal to leak.

2.2 Liter timing belt info:
http://endwrench.com...leOverWin01.pdf
http://endwrench.com...fs/2.2Liter.pdf
http://endwrench.com...BeltEWWin05.pdf

Motor Magazine series; starts with 2.2, then moves on to 2.5:
http://www.motor.com...s/072001_08.pdf
http://www.motor.com...s/082001_08.pdf
http://www.motor.com...s/092001_08.pdf
http://www.motor.com...s/102001_08.pdf
http://www.motor.com...s/112001_08.pdf



this is a great collection of timing belt info, has it been named "timing belt info" and added to the repair manual?

i know that no one searches there first, including me, but it might be easier to post a search phrase or link in response to all of the first timers questions. and the questions about ''i just did my timing belt and now my engine doesn't run right?"

thanks 99 !!

Edited by johnceggleston, 20 June 2009 - 07:15 AM.


#6 OB99W

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 08:53 PM

this is a great collection of timing belt info, has it been named ''timingbeltinfo'' and added to the repair manual?

Thanks John. To be honest, I haven't checked whether those links are in the USMB repair manual. If they're not, and someone would like to add that info, perhaps the additional links for the 2.5 DOHC in post #6 of http://www.ultimates...ad.php?t=100489 might also be included.

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Posted 20 June 2009 - 07:15 AM

something like this timingbeltinfo:

When (not ''if'' :)) the t-belt gets changed, be sure to check for loose back plate screws on the oil pump, since that can cause the crank seal to leak.

2.2 Liter timing belt info:
http://endwrench.com...leOverWin01.pdf
http://endwrench.com...fs/2.2Liter.pdf
http://endwrench.com...BeltEWWin05.pdf

2.5 Liter DOHC timing belt:
http://endwrench.com...BeltEWWin05.pdf
http://endwrench.com...s/2.5Timing.pdf
http://endwrench.com....ReplaceF00.pdf
http://endwrench.com...StepEWAug07.pdf

Motor Magazine series; starts with 2.2, then moves on to 2.5:
http://www.motor.com...s/072001_08.pdf
http://www.motor.com...s/082001_08.pdf
http://www.motor.com...s/092001_08.pdf
http://www.motor.com...s/102001_08.pdf
http://www.motor.com...s/112001_08.pdf


Thread discussing crank bolt removal: http://www.ultimates....ad.php?t=48091


Thread discussing t-belt/idler/tensioner kits: http://www.ultimates....ad.php?t=95187

#8 greenleg88

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Posted 21 June 2009 - 08:53 AM

thanks for all the great info. just for reference the car has 160k miles, automatic


ive been looking at an ebay kit. and it said somethign about up till 2/97 and anything from 3/97 and later will not fit.

ebay kit link: http://cgi.ebay.com/...sQ5fAccessories


what is that referring to? the tensioner style? this is what it all looks like
Pic: http://img512.images...58/img1197t.jpg


also, can someone confirm this:
along with the ebay kit, i should also be getting the oil pump o ring, crank seal, waterpump, w/p gasket, and thermostat.
what about a new tensioner, crank sprocket?

the cam seals were just done 12k miles ago.. as was the belt.... but does anyone think it should be done again just because its all so accessible.

Also, does anyone think that crankshaft is ruined because of badly the key is shifted? thats my biggest concern at the moment...


thank you!

Edited by greenleg88, 21 June 2009 - 08:57 AM.





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