Rooster, The car was new to the lot, just one weekend. I was checking their lot. I bought two new cars from them previously and have been treated very well. In their defense, the delayed forward engagement was not an everytime thing but........ I questioned the exact same thing that you did about them not knowing etc. As for a deal I don't know. 5k out the door for a 99 Legacy SUS with 72.5k miles that was garage kept and not a spot of rust on it. Got rid of a rust bucket Accord with 198,000 on it. It was a 98. I just hope this SUS runs like the Honda did. Took the SUS back and forth across PA last week and was very pleased.