mellow65 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 they dont know it yet but that starter is gonna blow the lid off the 2JZ crowd in a little bit, I been struggling with the starter arriangement for the GM tran /2JZ engine and the Sub starter is the key to building a good cheap adapter well we're glad we could bring you into our warp misunderstood world of subarus and at least help you with your starter dilemma. i know you probably wont ever get into them, but it's once you do your hooked. i have yet to really find something that is really that difficult to do on them. and everything damn near fits everything everything else. at least when it comes down to the mechanical bits. my 93 impreza wagon is a combo of parts from about 8 different cars spanning from 1990-2004, everything from a simple legacy to a STI. it's beautiful how everything fit together. i think subaru just went with, if it's not broke, why change it. and i'm glad they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True2Blue Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 For everyone that may want one (like myself) what does this part cost IF you are still producing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 For everyone that may want one (like myself) what does this part cost IF you are still producing them. read back a few pages.he IS producing them right now. it has been said that Mellow gets the first one of course.I am in line for the second one.cheers, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True2Blue Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 thanks i got tired of reading i was in a hurry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill hincher Posted March 15, 2011 Author Share Posted March 15, 2011 For everyone that may want one (like myself) what does this part cost IF you are still producing them. I am placing the starter now,the casting was tall enough but when machining the starter hieght it proved to be too short to use in a second casting, so I had to raise the starter deck and resize the starter hole, I had too larger of a starter pocket so it had to be changed I sold some other housings I had in stock and had to machine them out so I been a little late with all the work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True2Blue Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 well im in when they are available i dont know who all is in line bit id like one. im going to kuwait this month for work but ill check this thread for updates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill hincher Posted March 15, 2011 Author Share Posted March 15, 2011 I will set it up so anybody can oredr them when ever they want, I maintain the product lines after the r&d is done as in with ham and eggs, the chicken is involved, the pig is committed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill hincher Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) well, to recap how this all works, I re used the original Subaru pilot bearing with a Toyota disc and the original Subaru flywheel now just as a reminder the W series includes the 2wd w55 through 59 model and the W series 4WD trans model, they are the same bolt up I re used the original Subaru pivot ball then I built the throw out bearing holder and matched a Nissian throw out bearing to the Sub pressure plate and I re used the original Subaro clutch fork then I added a treaded insert in the lower starter bolt hole so it can either be used or drilled out to be used with the 8 bolt Subaru engine, I re used the original Subaru starter I also re used the original Subaru slave cylinder and push rod in its original location and here is the first fully operational W series bellhousing with all the T 's crossed and all the I's dotted, its perfect >;o) Edited March 17, 2011 by bill hincher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill hincher Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 whatcha think mellow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellow65 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 it's everything i dreamed it would be and more. Bill is the man :banana: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellow65 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 oh one last thing, and totally thinking ahead here, do you know the size of the bolts needed for the bell housing to tranny. My tranny i bought didn't have any and i wasn't sure if maybe you make your flange thicker or something. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch de la Brat Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Twitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 well, to recap how this all works, I re used the original Subaru pilot bearing with a Toyota disc and the original Subaru flywheel now just as a reminder the W series includes the 2wd w55 through 59 model and the W series 4WD trans model, they are the same bolt up I re used the original Subaru pivot ball then I built the throw out bearing holder and matched a Nissian throw out bearing to the Sub pressure plate and I re used the original Subaro clutch fork then I added a treaded insert in the lower starter bolt hole so it can either be used or drilled out to be used with the 8 bolt Subaru engine, I re used the original Subaru starter I also re used the original Subaru slave cylinder and push rod in its original location and here is the first fully operational W series bellhousing with all the T 's crossed and all the I's dotted, its perfect >;o) :drunk::drunk: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True2Blue Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 when you are set up please let me know i fly to kuwait tomorrow and wont be able to check in all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill hincher Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 is the clutch cable bracket on top of the trans all the same? from early years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill hincher Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 when you are set up please let me know i fly to kuwait tomorrow and wont be able to check in all the time wish I could go with you, I was in st petersburg Russia when the wall came down .;o) ( true story) all I can do is keep updating my posts and you can watch me here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True2Blue Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 if you have a secret clearance and mechanic skills/experience with the maxpro series you can... im in kuwait and im waiting anxiously i talked to a fab shop and im gettin the legacy 4-linked.. i need that adapter so he can fab up the tranny mounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True2Blue Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 where will the shifters pop through would we need to cut the tunnel at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill hincher Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 this applies to all the toyota transmissions, this just happens to be an r 154 but it will work on the w series just as easy that long rod with the finger at the end of it is the key to building the remote shifter that is low enough to fit under the trans tunnel and move the shifter back as far as i wanted you can see here how the finger fits in the three shiftshafts to move the r 154 through all the different gear selections at the other end of the shaft away from the finger end i built this recepter at an angle in an attempt to keep the shaft low, i built this as a starter project, i will take the numbers i found here and continue to lower it further i built a couple pillar blocks and found the correct numbers to build the shift ratio for the sideways motion in the shifter, it was about 72% i cut away the rear housing so i could see the shift motion in all gears, it shift as smooth as silk >;o) I can place your shifter anywhere you want it Be carefull in Kuwait, they dont like us much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True2Blue Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I get that feeling often.. They are nuts here i wish i could carry my pistol here:rolleyes: So the t case will be compensated too? you can make both match the subarus stock hole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellow65 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I get that feeling often.. They are nuts here i wish i could carry my pistol here:rolleyes: So the t case will be compensated too? you can make both match the subarus stock hole? pretty much what he is building there is a way of relocating the shifter point on a 2wd, which should work with a 4x4 tranny, but wont take care of the transfer case. there will be some work needed to be done on the side of the installer. if Bill was to give us 100% bolt in everything this thing probably would cost 10 times as much and the guy would never have a life because there would be so many different combos to figure out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill hincher Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 no, i have no idea where the shifter will be, that answer will come from mellow65 when he helps out with the R&D you cant carry a weapon? I assure you all the nutz there have one, they shoot weapons just to say hello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellow65 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 here's a side by side of a w58 and a subaru tranny with the input shafts lined up as good as i could do it. i'm going to assume that the 4x4 and the 2wds tranny shifter is at about the same location. or if bill would maybe throw a tape measure on the trans with the bell housing for a "from the back of the motor to shifter" measurement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True2Blue Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 that's no problem my fab guy is just asking so im asking you.. i can do it:) anyone know the motion of the movement of the tcase shifter? i might be able to install liner actuators (push button 4x4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellow65 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 how about this. i remembered seeing a pic with a T on it, so i counted, made some marks, and took a guess. it's not exact, but it's in the ball park. front of bell housing to trans shifter: 17" front of bell housing to transfer case shifter: 22.75" those are big ishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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