aaronxs400 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Ive had these thoughts filling my head for about a week now. Maybe when I get my new job I can go ahead with this plan... Car will be based on my 83 GL Wagon EJ22/25 frakenmotor, 5 Speed D/R Nissan 720 transfer case Heres where it gets crazy: Ford 8.8 IRS Rear diff in the rear, full double a-arm suspension, 97+ f150 4wd front spindle/brakes (yes, front spindles on the rear), custom axles, 12-14 inches of travel Ford 8.8 IRS Rear diff in the FRONT, full double a-arm suspension, 97+ f150 4wd front spindle/brakes,custom axles 12-14 inches of travel 31 inch tires Full Cage Truck and Trailer to haul it to the Baja 1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 not really crazy.been thought about , done with, and built with different components before , and currently being worked on as well....... but, there is not a class for it in the 1000. and, if you can't afford to do it right, it can turn into a nightmare really fast.just sayin.cheers, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brumby420 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I love the idea but it sure seems like a lot of work. id like to do something like that at some point but at this time i lack the tools and im lazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronxs400 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 I have most the tools I need, and plenty of time. If i go to a junkyard (pry go to pullapart) i can get most everything from the yards for $400-500. Plus all my materials and such. I think i can do it for under $1k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronxs400 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 It would probably run in Sportsman Buggy/Car. A catch all class, but you cant win any money. The Baja thing is more of a pipe dream. Monstaru, do you have any links to any of these subarus with similiar setups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brumby420 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I have a subaru dune buggy sort of like what you are talking about only the running gear is stock. If youd like pics email me at brumbyracer420@gmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronxs400 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 email sent! i always like looking at fabricaton projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I have most the tools I need, and plenty of time. If i go to a junkyard (pry go to pullapart) i can get most everything from the yards for $400-500. Plus all my materials and such. I think i can do it for under $1k. so, just out of curiousity , what other fab type projects have you done?cheers, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronxs400 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 I can do basic fabrication. this is my 8 second hayabusa, stock engine, chrome moly frame, 360lbs. i did not do the machine work but I was present for every step of the process, learning as much as I could. I spent several weeks at Lincoln's welding school, were I got my certificate in welding 4130. Bought a lincoln percision tig 225. Found a Pro-tools hydraulic bender with 4 dies for $500 on craigslist. Just bought a house several months ago, been busy remodeling and getting the dragbike ready for 2011 season. I know it wasnt out of curiosity, it was to see if I was just blowing smoke or if I knew what I am getting myself into. I can weld and do basic fab works. I learn as I go. If its not right you rebuild it. This project may never happen, as the dragbike will always be my number 1 focus. If any machine work needs to be done, it would be done my a friend of mine from michigan, he is a master machinist and does alot of fab work on drag cars. So if I decide to do this, I have the resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronxs400 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) And I do believe I can do it for under 1k...well, maybe slightly more. I already have all the tubing I need to build the aarms and some of the subframes. I get 1.25 .120 wall tubing for free from my father in law. At the Pull-A-Parts i can get spindle with rotor and caliper for $36.19. Rear Diff for $60, Axles for $25. Besides the OEM parts ill need some steering components, misc. steel, probably run Johnny joints at the pivot points, looking at uniballs for the balljoints. But yes, this will be my first big fab project. But you gotta start somewhere right? Edited January 22, 2011 by aaronxs400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatswhatshesaid Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Sounds like a very interesting project. Where are you located? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronxs400 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 central Ohio, im an hour from cleveland and an hour from columbus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronxs400 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 not really crazy.been thought about , done with, and built with different components before , and currently being worked on as well....... but, there is not a class for it in the 1000. and, if you can't afford to do it right, it can turn into a nightmare really fast.just sayin.cheers, b Would still like to see some pictures or links to build threads of these cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) search Godzirra...that one is close enough to you, it might behoove you to try and visit the guy.. and i have some pics i can load up later from when i was designing a setup using EJ items...... I am a beginner as well, just come across alot of folks that seem to have big dreams without any knowledge of how much it will take to achieve them. nice 'busa.... the 1.25 120 wall is a bit small for cage work by basic standards.way more triangulation would be needed i think.which adds more weight , etc, you know the drill......if it was DOM it would be strong enough though..i have been using 1.5 120 wall DOM for my stuff.....alot of pro competition buggies use 1.5 120 wall DOM nowadays.... cheers Edited January 22, 2011 by monstaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronxs400 Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 I completely understand. Heck, i dont even know if this will happen. Itd be awesome though. I would build the cage out of at least 1.5, id just have to get a die for my bender, biggest I have is 1.25. I will use the 1.25 tubing for the a-arms and the subframes for the diffs and a-arm mounts. My plan is actually to build subframes that house the diffs and have the pivots for the a-arm mounts, and these subframes would bolt to stock mount locations. The front and rear subframes would then be tied together. basically bolting the subaru body on the subframes. Cage would pry only happen if i decided to race, an exocage would be awesome though. Hopefully this project can happen when I get my new job. Still in the planning stages right now, i need to get some dimensions on factory 28 spline ford cv axles and figure out if i can use an off the shelf axle or need to extend one to get the travel I want. I will keep you guys updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brumby420 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Here is a pic if the buggy. I can get more if youd like. it has an ea81 with a DR 4 speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tails878 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Arron thats badass i have ben thinking useing a transfer case outa like a samari and still deciding on the front end but right now im to wrap'd up in lifting my legacy a foot so i have room but i allso wana see how it is with stock drivetrain be4 i go crazy guna try to bust that out this weekend at my fab shop ill have to post pictures but if you move along with your build def keep us updated i'd like to see how it goes and what designs you come up with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronxs400 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 you should post up pics of what your building, id like to see a 12 inch lifted legacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 run through these photos .start from page 15 and work your way back.there is alot to look at, but it shows progression throughout.to where i am now.cheers. b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahDL88 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Having been part of 3 Baja 1000 teams I would recommend getting the rule book and building to the regulations. It would suck to travel all the way down to Ensenada and find out you can't play because you failed tech. Yes, there are a tremendous amount of classes that you can be in, but even the most basic class has very specific safety and modification rules. There is a class running the 2.5 outback engine, rear mount, they are pretty wild. Vibration will be your biggest foe on the course, not heat, speed, impact other drivers, Vibration kills everything, batteries, connections, hoses, engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronxs400 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 thanks for the link! Can I ask what your specs are for the build? what diffs, transfer case, what are your plans for the suspension, tire size? I seen a caption of one of your photos, said you were not happy about how low the diff is...how much ground clearance do you expect at the diff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronxs400 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 im completely use to building something to fit a rule set...we have some strict rules in the dragbike world regarding construction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 thanks for the link! Can I ask what your specs are for the build? what diffs, transfer case, what are your plans for the suspension, tire size? I seen a caption of one of your photos, said you were not happy about how low the diff is...how much ground clearance do you expect at the diff? me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronxs400 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tails878 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 you should post up pics of what your building, id like to see a 12 inch lifted legacy OH i will do and ive decided 8ich overal lift instead of 12 thats to much extra work lengthening all the connections under the hood but im pshyced im starting friday and plan/have to be done by sunday got most the parts built already but i have to wait till teardown to design some parts you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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