misledxcracker Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 So I picked up a '87 XT GL 2wd 5spd today with an MPFI EA82. It starts up just fine, but the minute you rev it up, just up to 2k, the temp gauge goes up to the H really fast. I shut it off right before it got to the line before the H, and felt the radiator, it was pretty much cold. The engine sure wasn't cold though The radiator is full of coolant. I don't notice any mixing of fluids. I ran it without the radiator cap and the water is stagnant; it just sits there. The hoses get hot, just not the radiator. I'm confused, I've never had a radiator that's not hot anywhere I touch. This is all while parked, I can't drive it yet because the front hub is stripped out. Where should I start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobieryan Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Definitely sounds like your thermostat isn't opening. Try a new oem t-stat from the dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 I'm going to try to run it without a t-stat, see if it alleviates the problem. I will eventually order an OEM t-stat online. Hope that's what it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 may have an air bubble in the block. try filling plock from the hoses first, then the radiator. run the car till the thermostat opens. the water pump may be bad or inefficient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skishop69 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Those rads are good for plugging up too. If you pull the T-stat and it still gets hot and there's not a ton of pressure in the system, I'd look into flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted February 26, 2011 Author Share Posted February 26, 2011 I figure yanking the t-stat and seeing what happens would be the easiest (and cheapest.) I really hope that's all it is... If I need a new water pump, can I use... say, an SPFI EA82 water pump? I don't know exactly what interchanges... What about radiators? I'll buy new if need be. Hard to search for XT related things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 no, you will need one for a turbo/mpfi. the short 105mm shaft versus the spfi 110 mm shaft. you can use an spfi water pump, so long as you have the right pulley to go with it, but only if you convert all of the pulleys yo v belts instead of flat belts, and the xt/mpfi motor did not ever have the long water pump, and therefore the right pulley for it would not exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted February 26, 2011 Author Share Posted February 26, 2011 Note taken on the water pump shaft... Thanks for saving me a headache What about interchanging radiators? I'd like to replace it for preventive maintenance, but seriously, $300something for a radiator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 As usual, Milesfox knows what he is talking about with the waterpump being special. It is unlikely that it is a waterpump issue. Waterpumps are pretty dumb-simple devices. They need replacing due to seal and/or bearing deterioration. I have yet to see one where the impeller is not working. Expect a more common fault, like t-stat or plugged radiator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted February 26, 2011 Author Share Posted February 26, 2011 Took out the thermostat, and now no overheat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Those rads are good for plugging up too. If you pull the T-stat and it still gets hot and there's not a ton of pressure in the system, I'd look into flow. You're right on the money. I've had the t-stat yanked for a while now, and the temp gauge still goes up to about halfway. I bought a new radiator cap with the lever on it; I'm still getting practically zero pressure. However, the radiator actually gets warm now, it's not cold like it was before. I can't feel any cold spots, anyhow. EVERY Subaru I've bought needed a new radiator, now I just need to figure out exactly which one to get! I always end up getting the wrong radiator two or three times before I finally find the right one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonicfrog Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Make sure you get a dual core radiator. Essential for the turbo models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 radiatorbarn.com has some awesome prices for radiators some times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 I don't have a turbo, thank goodness. I'll go check out that site.. mine may actually be alright, gonna try flushing first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 I'm going to search around, but I figured I'd ask just in case. Is it possible to get a 2-row radiator for my NA XT? If so, any idea on which one? I understand a single-row radiator works just fine, but I'd like the added "insurance" as I live in NW Arizona (125 degree summers) Going to probably toss the manual fan as well, and install another EA82 electric fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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