ducunee Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 No power to glove box lamp or cig lighter, a red 18G wire connected to lamp and runs to cover switch, Haven't been able to find wiring diagram that shows this wire. Guessing it gets back to fuse block some how or there is a pluggable connector somewhere. Clock only works in run, but that is probably a clock problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducunee Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 Its a 85 BRAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Have you checked for Blown fusibles and worn / loose Relays? Kind Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihscout54 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) No power to glove box lamp or cig lighter, a red 18G wire connected to lamp and runs to cover switch, Haven't been able to find wiring diagram that shows this wire. Guessing it gets back to fuse block some how or there is a pluggable connector somewhere. Clock only works in run, but that is probably a clock problem I believe the glove box lamp gets it power from the head light switch and the door switch controls its ground (it will only work when the dash is lit up). Cig lighter only hot in accy or run, and clock only in run. Edited January 24, 2015 by ihscout54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducunee Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 Don't have dash lights only the red indicators no lights on speedo and tach. Think I found the relays behind panel next to fuses. Any where there is a wiring diagram of these relays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomRhere Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/thegreatsubarubratclub/info If you go to the link and click on files at the top of the page, you'll find downloadable files of the '83 FSM. They are a .rar file, I can't open them myself, don't have proper program. Wiring didn't change much, so it should help you out. edit; YEA!! It worked... Laptop would not let me do links. This here tower does.. I be Happy now... Edited January 25, 2015 by TomRhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihscout54 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Don't have dash lights only the red indicators no lights on speedo and tach. Think I found the relays behind panel next to fuses. Any where there is a wiring diagram of these relays? There Is only one relay for the lighting (stock) that i remember. It controls + for the system and is triggered by the ign switch. The most common reason for no panel lights (especially if the park lights work) is the dimmer knob on the very end of the switch. Might need to fiddle with it and see if lights return. This will have no bearing on your glove box tho. This pot varies the ground to the panel lights only (dimmer). So my previous post was slightly misleading, the glovebox light can be on with the panal lights off. That new FSM should help out alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducunee Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 Well the dash lights now work after spraying the dimmer switch, thanks for hint. Now I have found a bad fuse in spot labeled rad/fan. replacing this fuse brings the glove box lamp to life, but the aftermarket feul pump runs contistantly. The radio which I think should only be on with iginition in run or acc works with no key in ignition. The ignition switch has been changed by previous owner. Tried my darndest to interpret the referanced wiring diagrams to no avail. None are for 85 brat that I've found. Another thing the rad/fan fuse is hot with key out. Who would of thought the glove box lamp would to lead to all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomRhere Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I have bits and pieces of the FSM, but the fuse for the radiator fan also powers the radio and cigarette lighter. If a previous owner has hacked the wiring on yours, you ae kind of one your own in figuring it all out. No one on here knows what was done. The link to the FSM I posted will help you troubleshoot the wiring, it really didn't change much over the years the BRATs were built, really any EA81 bodied vehicle for that matter. I sent bushy555 that FSM posted on the above linked site, he found the missing portions and filled it in. It's just I,, can't access what he posted, as I don't have the proper program to do so. I have used what portions I have of the Electrical Section to fix issues with my '85 and my '86 BRATs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaudean Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Hit me with your Email and I'll send you wiring diagrams that I have. They have gotten me out of a couple pickles. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducunee Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 Further investigation revealed the the problem is associated with the after market fuel pump. Can any one tell me how the fuel pump should be wired. Some where hot all time is wired into the accessory fuse for cig radio and glove box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducunee Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 Can anyone tell me on 85 brat when fuse 4 is should be active acc or run. mine is hot all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducunee Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 found a wiring diagram on Http://webmonkees.com/art/sub/85bratwires.jpg. Shows all connections but doesn't have any labels for the fuses. If like chilton diagrams that show fuses by number would be most helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 ... Can any one tell me how the fuel pump should be wired. ... It should be Wired to a Relay, which signal to turn On must came from the ignition Key, while the position is in "ON" only... Kind Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducunee Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 no relay in pump circuit diagram.Fused Wire to + side of coil through resistor to fuel pump. I have after market fuel pump so resistor not needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 no relay in pump circuit diagram... I thought that you were speaking of how to wire an Aftermarket electric Fuel Pump. Kind Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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