Espey16 Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 The "fingers" on the new pressure plate are completely flat across the part. The "fingers" on my old pressure plate kinda go upward like a dome (it's laying down on my bench). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 To post pics it’s best to use an image hosting site, then drop the image code in here Cheers Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 https://imgur.com/a/LwJtUqV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 Hopefully I did that right. Thebearing on the left is the old one from my spair tranny. The one in the middle came with the clutch kit, and the one on the right is new from the auto parts store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 https://imgur.com/a/gCc7FmH This is the new pressure plate that is on the engine right now. I'm not sure what they're actually called, but the "fingers" are flat across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 https://imgur.com/a/s9ysWtI This is my old pressure plate sitting on the box the new clutch kit came in. Notice the "fingers" are kinda pointed toward where the tranny would be? I'm curious if this was the source of my problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 So I think I'm gonna try and Frankenstein my clutch together. Use the disc and pilot bearing that came with the kit, my old pressure plate, and the throwout bearing I got from the auto parts store. If it works, it works. If it doesn't, I'm only out the price of the bearing, some coolant and a couple hours time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 I'm learning stuff here. Upon tightening the PP bolts, the fingers flatten out. That being said, I'm back to having absolutely no idea what is going on with this car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 On 9/11/2022 at 10:23 PM, moosens said: I’m not family with the kit you had bought. But since you’re likely looking at pulling it all apart again I’d start with being sure it’s installed correctly no matter how sure you are. Step one out of the way I’d go with Atsugi or Paraut for plate and disk if possible. Kits these days ? Hmmm kind of tough. It’s my opinion that you’d do better to build your own. There used to be LuK clutch kits for 70’s and early 80’s. Maybe your era too. But if building a kit I’d go with Japanese made parts from that era. And folks like Atsugi and Paraut are suppliers to Subaru OEM. Good name throw out bearing and you’ll be back on the road. Good luck. https://imgur.com/a/5dDU7DT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 I'm sorry I keep machine gun posting. I just bolted the new disc and PP to my old flywheel. The fingers are now kind of out toward where the transmission would be. Does that maybe mean that the flywheel I had resurfaced has been taken to the machine shop 1 too many times and is now too thin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 They weren't torqued down that's why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Hehehe… the learning curve is steep! At least you’re learning things along the way. Did the machine shop shave the surface that clamps the disc AND the surface that the pressure plate mounts to? If they’ve only done the clamping surface they will have reduced the clamping force, probably not by much if they’ve just skimmed it but it could make the fingers of each clutch pressure plate sit differently when the pressure plate is torqued down to spec. I doubt this is the issue anyway. You could try putting a washer under the pivot ball for the clutch fork, this will move the clutch fork closer to the clutch and allow the fork to be pulled back further before the fork hits the gearbox case (I’ve had this before and it was mega frustrating). Another thing to look at is the deck height of the pressure plate from the mount plate pieces to the top pressed metal that the fingers are behind. Compare the two units and see if there’s any difference. It’s possible the old unit is thicker than the new unit, this has the fingers closer to the throw out bearing allowing better/full disengagement. Another test you could’ve tried before pulling it apart was starting the engine with the gearbox in gear, foot on the clutch. If the car lurches forward there’s definitely an issue with the clutch not releasing the way it should. Starting the engine in gear like this could jolt something that was a bit sticky into releasing properly. Lots of thoughts in one post Cheers Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 So I ran the car after the clutch replacement and the motor ran fine. I put the car in gear when I figured out something was wrong and started it to get it out of the garage. I ended up taking it down the road about 5 miles, and when I needed to shift I just kinda Rev matched the gears and it fell right in each shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 I put a washer between the cable and the clutch fork to get a little more adjustment out of it, and it would shift into the high gears, but not the low. I honestly don't know how to get the fork off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 The whole surface of the flywheel was resurfaced, not just where the disk sits but the pressure plate surface too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 I think I'm just going to put the old stuff back in with the auto parts store throwout bearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 I am working on that now. I'm going to use the resurfaced flywheel also. Or should I use the old one the old clutch disk already knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 https://imgur.com/a/2cjlkcQ This is the flywheel I had resurfaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptoe's photos Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Have you measured the step difference between the two surfaces? EA81 had different step to EA82. One is 21mm the other 23mm. I forget which is which. I wonder if same happened to machine shop guy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) No, I'm done with it honestly. I'm just putting everything back together the way it came out, minus the throwout bearing. I cleaned to the best of my ability the og flywheel, now I'm putting it all back together. If it ain't broke, don't fix it lol. Edited October 14, 2022 by Espey16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 Motor is back in. Nothing else connected yet (wiring, clutch, hill holder, cooling, ect). Vehicle rolls forward in gear with a ratchet on the crank. I'll let you know what happens when everything is hooked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 I'm calling it quits for the night. All I have to do is hook the exhaust back up and put some water in the radiator. I'll post tomorrow after work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptoe's photos Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 it is now tomorrow..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 My bad, I had to work late last night. I will get it done this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espey16 Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) Well I feel like a complete moron! I forgot to re tighten the oil pan bolts while the engine was out. Edited October 15, 2022 by Espey16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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