tizzle Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 You can probably see the smoke. At 1st I thought It was the oil return line, but after I did some stuff with that, the problem persisted. It looks like the oil may be coming from the area around the exhaust side. Maybee somethings not tight or who know's. Is this thing toast? I'm still getting boost. It doesn't sound like its screaming or anything bad, but I don't necessarily know what it would sound like if it was. I got an extra one, but man, what a pain these things are to swap:banghead: red line where oil is visible -Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzle Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85Sub4WD Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I'm not a turbo person, but I may be able to offer some insight - I think it is a seal issue - I think you probably need to replace your oil feed/return lines, and be sure they are sealed well. Otherwise, the only real way to tell is to pull it off. If it is leaking oil, it is probably going out the exhaust, and therefore you should see smoke and have a hot cat. converter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzle Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 what cat converter? Originally I thought it was the clamp on the oil return line and replaced that with a better clamp. That did not fix the problem, so I thought, maybee I didn't put the gasket in the piece located at the same spot. Well, I guess I didn't so I put one in, but still having the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85Sub4WD Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 catalytic converter - emissions device that converts nitrous oxides (stuff that is really toxic that forms when Nitrogen is heated up really hot) and hydrocarbons (unburnt oil and gas) into much more benign chemicals - the reaction with hydrocarbons produces heat - too many hydrocarbons - too hot usually it is the first "thing" in your exhaust system - I think the O2 sensor screws into it on the turbos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzle Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 I know what it does and why I should have one, but the exhaust guy laughed at me when I told him I wanted to put one on, so I rather than being laughed at, do not have a cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBrumby Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 yeh he should laugh too, unless you have tough inspections. Having no cat makes your turbo spool faster. Any restriction after the turbo decreases performance and this is why you see really moded turbo's with no or only one muffler and straight pipe for the rest of the exhuast. But its illeagal in Australia and i supose most states in USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzle Posted February 26, 2005 Author Share Posted February 26, 2005 Okay found this post on Nasioc "I learned how the pcv/crank vent system and the valve cover breather system should be kept as seperate systems and that the worse case scenario when dealing with excessive crankcase pressure would prevent the oil from draining out of your turbo, causing lots of smoke as the oil would be forced to burn in the turbo." What do you guys think? Update: I pulled the turbo out(20 minutes, I'm really proud of that) cleaned and inspected it. There is some oil around the intake side, but prop shafts spin well. I think I was missing one of the washers around the oil banjo line, so I fixed that and torqued everything down properly. ---Still smoking have yet to figure out if its gunk that needs to be burnt off, But I'm guessing NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85Sub4WD Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 I did not realize you did not have a cat - sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 You'd be surprised how long gunk can smoke on the turbo. As far as oil on the intake side, it might be from the PCV system... pretty common problem. If you have an automatic transmission it could be ATF. Not too many sources for external oil leaks on the turbo itself. Any noise from the exhaust in the engine compartment? (As in, could the crossover/upipe have done its usual cracking, and you are seeing ingested oil/smoke coming from the exhaust?) Regarding the NASIOC post, after having recently examined the drain path for the turbo oil return and the general oil drainback from the head, if there is enough blowby to effect oil drainback then the engine has greater problems than how the PCV system is plumbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzle Posted February 26, 2005 Author Share Posted February 26, 2005 northwet, I think I might just go to the dealership and get a new pcv valve and clean out anything that might be in those lines. I thought I saw some blue smoke before, but not sure if it's doing now, the entire exhaust system is new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 northwet, I think I might just go to the dealership and get a new pcv valve and clean out anything that might be in those lines. I thought I saw some blue smoke before, but not sure if it's doing now, the entire exhaust system is new Don't forget new hoses on the PCV system... what a pain. Entire new exhaust system? You even got new pipes from head to turbo? I assume not dealer...$$$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzle Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 TWE exhaust into custom 2.5, resonator, and a flowmaster. Changed the pcv valve, and cleaned the hoses, and there was SO MUCH CRAP in them! yellowish sludge, and rusty junk, but I already have replaced half those hoses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 TWE exhaust into custom 2.5, resonator, and a flowmaster. Oh, even more $$$$$! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzle Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Oh, even more $$$$$! money well spent I say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.