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Are you talking about the ones that you can change the ends and make them do different things, I have a pair of them but they wont get a good bite. I think they came from Harbor Freight so maybe I need to get a good pair from Snap On or Sears.

do you have the C clip pliers? if so, maybe they suck as bad as mine did.bend the tips in very slightly so they wont want to just slide out of the c clip when you compress it.

good luck, C clips are the devil.

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