nikgurn Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 So i have put my loyale back together this weekend, and i cant seem to get it timed right. It will run but rough. I am positive that everything is lined up correctly, maybe i ahve some wire crossed, not sure. Any advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 You have it timed with the valve marks and not the ignition marks on the flywheel right? Time the belts first, then do the distributor - ALWAYS do the distributor after you move the belts as it's driven off the cam. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikgurn Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 You have it timed with the valve marks and not the ignition marks on the flywheel right? Time the belts first, then do the distributor - ALWAYS do the distributor after you move the belts as it's driven off the cam. GD The valve marks are the three together that come up after the numbered ones right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikgurn Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 It will start and then backfires, and dies. I have tohold the throttle about 75% open to get that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Yep - those are the ones. When they come up is one sprocket mark up and the other down? (doesn't matter which is up and which is down, so long as they are 180 degrees apart). GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikgurn Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 Yep, i am going to replace the timing belts, the passenger side is a hair stretched (when the middle line is lined up it is almost into the next valley instead of TDC. We turned the disty one tooth and it ran rough, had to keep the throtle cracked to keep it at an idle. Something is off, i just dont know what other than a maybe the TB is streched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 youre connecting the green plug under the hood when checking your timing, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikgurn Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 yeah, but i didnt know about that at first, might i have screwed things over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 They wouldn't have stretched enough to make it run like that. You have some other problem. Pull both belts off and do the timing procedure top to bottom over again and only then do the disty. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 GD summed it up. in order to be certain of the timing, it is best to remove the belts, and reset the valve timing first.. and once you have the belts on, everythings 180 apart the way it needs to be (if you dont know the procedure on installing timing belts, make sure you look it up on the forum, and read about it) then its time to set the distributor timing. changing things based on the timing with the green wire unplugged shouldnt hurt anything, (i dont think) but its useless... but you need to do this process in the right order so you know for certain that valve timing is correct, then distributor timing.. then it becomes a quality of spark or a fuel/compression issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikgurn Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 Sounds good, guess I will tear it apart again. You know i am getting pretty efficient at the dissasembly/assembly process.:-\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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