TheBush Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Currently running 14's on the front of my ea81 1986 gl hatch. It has 13's on the back... If I wanted to call the junkyard, and was looking for 14's for the back, what exactly am I looking for (need the rims, don't worry about tires for now). I know 4 Lug, 14's....but what else do I need to specify? Sorry for the n00b question... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 i beleave they are 4 on 140mm the only non subaru wheel that fits with no mods are pugs unles you get lucky and find a set of stock subaru aloys (14s) but thats like 1 in a million or so chance :-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBush Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 So I'm not going to be able to find any 14's? Do you have any Robbie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 i dont ahve any 14 inch subaru wheels but you should be able to find some pugs in the JY. pugs are the 14s that are on your car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBush Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 The white ones? so if i call the JY ask for 14 inch pugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchsub Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 If you ask that they might not know what your talking about. Pug stands for Peugeot. You want the wheels off of one of those cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBush Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 Well just called the Junkyards around...none of em claim to have any... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubaruJunkie Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Peugeot (pronounced Pew-joe). They are 4x140mm. Most junkyards wont know, you just gotta go look. 14"s were offered in steel and alloy. You wont find any Subaru 14" rims, and if you do its a miracle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davalos Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Can I ask a really ... REALLY dumb question? Why 14s? I see people on the forums going to so much trouble finding wheels and switching hubs and etc etc... is it just a cosmetic thing? I mean, may be it's because I came from 16.5" tires that cost $150 a piece that I say this ... but I can put 4 tires on my little beast for $102 out the door. Hell, "We don't need no sneekin' alignment!" I mean Geeze, at those prices, I'll put new tires everytime I do an oil change and STILL come out ahead! I know for a fact that if I was shopping for 14" tires, my price would almost double for the same load range, etc. I mean, there's gotta be something I'm missing here. It's gotta be the looks/handling, yes? I fully admit that some of the soobs that I have seen here that I take a double-look at from a "wow, cool!" standpoint are pimped-out. And I also admit that I use my soob only for work, so I don't really care that much how it looks. So is that it? Or am I missing-out on a glorious Soobie moment that I should think about? I still consider myself to be somewhat of a newbie. And ... (gulp) after the evidently now-infamous "Virgin Switch" incident last month, I don't take ANYTHING for granted anymore, hehe. I'm never gonna live that down for the rest of my life, I have a feeling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 one reason Dav at least around here 13" tires are getting hard to find. and the options for 14" are wide and varried. 13" is almost "take what dey got" deal sometimes. Plus they look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky92 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 one reason Davat least around here 13" tires are getting hard to find. and the options for 14" are wide and varried. 13" is almost "take what dey got" deal sometimes. Plus they look better. WILLY!!!! I LOVE Willy..Thanks Skip...she just made my day:grin: ( Willy is my second favorite EA82 wagon of all times..next to Bucky) Actually even 14s are getting kinda hard...I had trouble finding ones for my XT6 and what was available was garbage ( around here). I am upgrading to 16s on the XT6 ..I think..just cause I can swap between it and my Imp them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Thanks Connie, you're the sweetest. Willy the wunder wagon sits retired now (like her owner ;^) ) She hasn't been started for over a year but I'd bet dollars to dognutz, she fire right up if I asked. BTW those are 15"'r's on her, 205/55 I think And you are correct 14's are even a hard local find. Thus the 15's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky92 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Thanks Connie, you're the sweetest. Willy the wunder wagon sits retired now (like her owner ;^) ) She hasn't been started for over a year but I'd bet dollars to dognutz, she fire right up if I asked. BTW those are 15"'r's on her, 205/55 I think And you are correct 14's are even a hard local find. Thus the 15's. I keep this picture saved on my Puter of Willy Thats how much I love her: I know when I got the tires for the XT6 I had to get some oddball size 195 70s or something.. Dont know if it made it harder cause I believe they are speed rated. At least the selection of 15 and 16 inch tires is good and the prices are comeing down...slowly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfolsom Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Do Nissan 4 bolt rims work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Do Nissan 4 bolt rims work? no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davalos Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 one reason Davat least around here 13" tires are getting hard to find. and the options for 14" are wide and varried. 13" is almost "take what dey got" deal sometimes. Plus they look better. Okay, fair enough. So the 14s must be like 65s or 55s to keep from hitting the wheelwells? I think mine are 165-70R13s, and it's getting close. I think my next option was 175-80R13s and they would have hit the wells (or so I was told .. I dunno.). I've never had a problem getting 13s for sowe reason. But again - it's a work vehicle - I'm not that picky. I have a 2wd also, which seems to sit a lot lower than the ones I've seen. I think I have like the only 2wd Subaru on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Okay, fair enough. So the 14s must be like 65s or 55s to keep from hitting the wheelwells? I think mine are 165-70R13s, and it's getting close. I think my next option was 175-80R13s and they would have hit the wells (or so I was told .. I dunno.). I've never had a problem getting 13s for sowe reason. But again - it's a work vehicle - I'm not that picky. I have a 2wd also, which seems to sit a lot lower than the ones I've seen. I think I have like the only 2wd Subaru on the planet. 175-80 13 won't rub at all. Even on 2wd. That' a nice size, but again becoming obsolete 195 or 205 /60/14 or 215/55/14 will fit easily. My reasons for running 14s is the better availability of good snow and traction tires. there is almost nothing for 13s. And what tires are available are 155/80/13 or 175/70/13(wimpy:rolleyes: :-\ ). Almost nothing for 185/70/13 or any bigger. And once you get 2 or 3 inches of lift, you can run 27x8.50x14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfolsom Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 My Midas guy says I can order from http://www.tirerack.com/ ship them directly to them and they would put them on. Maybe someone in your area would do the same or you can have them sent to yourself. There were more but I was limited on what I could include in the post. Tires for size 185/70-13 Search New Size Search by Vehicle Performance Category: All Brands: All Speed Ratings: All Run Flat: Included Sort results by: Sort Order... Brand Price Performance Type Speed Rating UTQG Warranty Rating Yokohama AVID T4 (Performance All-Season) Overview | Specs | Warranty | Reviews | Test Results | Survey Results Sidewall Style: Blackwall Size: 185/70TR13 Serv. Desc: 85T Load Index 85 = 1135lbs (515kg) per tireSpeed Rating “T” = 118mph (190kph) UTQG: Treadwear: 420Traction: ATemperature: B420 A B Price: $53.00 (each) Estimated Availability: In Stock Optional Road Hazard Program: additional $6.36 per tire Qty: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Kumho Solus KR21 (Standard Touring All-Season) Overview | Specs | Warranty | Reviews | Test Results | Survey Results Sidewall Style: Blackwall Size: 185/70TR13 Serv. Desc: 85T Load Index 85 = 1135lbs (515kg) per tireSpeed Rating “T” = 118mph (190kph) UTQG: Treadwear: 640Traction: ATemperature: B640 A B Price: $41.00 (each) Estimated Availability: In Stock Qty: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Sumitomo HTR T4 (Standard Touring All-Season) Overview | Specs | Warranty | Reviews Sidewall Style: Blackwall Size: 185/70TR13 Serv. Desc: 85T Load Index 85 = 1135lbs (515kg) per tireSpeed Rating “T” = 118mph (190kph) UTQG: Treadwear: 560Traction: ATemperature: B560 A B Price: $45.00 (each) Estimated Availability: In Stock Optional Road Hazard Program: additional $6.00 per tire Qty: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Yokohama AVID Touring (Standard Touring All-Season) Overview | Specs | Warranty | Reviews | Test Results | Survey Results Sidewall Style: Blackwall Size: 185/70SR13 Serv. Desc: 85S Load Index 85 = 1135lbs (515kg) per tireSpeed Rating “S” = 112mph (180kph) UTQG: Treadwear: 620Traction: ATemperature: B620 A B Price: $50.00 (each) Estimated Availability: In Stock Optional Road Hazard Program: additional $6.00 per tire Qty: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Firestone FR680 (All-Season) Overview | Specs | Warranty | Reviews Sidewall Style: Blackwall Size: 185/70SR13 Serv. Desc: 85S Load Index 85 = 1135lbs (515kg) per tireSpeed Rating “S” = 112mph (180kph) UTQG: Treadwear: 400Traction: ATemperature: B400 A B Price: $25.00 (each) Closeout Estimated Availability: Fewer than 2 Optional Road Hazard Program: additional $6.00 per tire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 That's great, but almost nothing for snow or traction. Also try finding *H* rated 185/70/13s. Almost impossible, and expensive. If you have an EA82 Turbo, alot of places will insist on only installing *H* rated, a that was the factory spec tire. Thank to the Firestone/Ford lawsuit. So if you have a turbo, put it on blocks, and have you're buddy with a pick up drive you down with the wheels and tires to get them mounted. Don't mention *turbo* if they ask about the vehichle they are going onto. I predict within 3-5 year the selection gets even slimmer to non-existant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfolsom Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 That's great, but almost nothing for snow or traction. Also try finding *H* rated 185/70/13s. Almost impossible, and expensive. If you have an EA82 Turbo, alot of places will insist on only installing *H* rated, a that was the factory spec tire. Thank to the Firestone/Ford lawsuit. So if you have a turbo, put it on blocks, and have you're buddy with a pick up drive you down with the wheels and tires to get them mounted. Don't mention *turbo* if they ask about the vehichle they are going onto. I predict within 3-5 year the selection gets even slimmer to non-existant. Just tryin' to help out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davalos Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Also try finding *H* rated 185/70/13s. Almost impossible, and expensive. If you have an EA82 Turbo, alot of places will insist on only installing *H* rated, a that was the factory spec tire. Thank to the Firestone/Ford lawsuit. Hehe ... "H", eh? I don't think I've ever gotten my soobie to go faster than like 68mph, haha! Maybe once in a wind-storm. I think I'm due for some new ones. I'll see what my local place has. I'd LOVE so sit a little taller ... I'm lookin' up @ dogs & cats now as it is ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 well bush there is a full set of pugs with lugs and center caps at poor boys they want 100 bucks for them. Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBush Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 What the hell? Where did you find that out and stuff? Robbie, can you add me to MSN messenger.... fattay at gmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 no but if you go to poor boys they have a poojoe 505 sedan and it has 14 inch pugs on it with all lugs and all center caps. they want 100 dollers. jerry and i found them and if you want them go ask about the pugs and he will show you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown_Muscle Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 How about 175 70 r13's?? theres lots of selection of them on the tire rack, and thats what i've got on my GL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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