So far I've checked the starter, replaced the ign (key area) checked the fuseable links, and still no start, is there anything else to check?

Everything seems to never been taken apart, Just can't figure it out.

 

While turning the key over all the lights come on the dash that should, you can hear the fuel pump go on and off, and as you turn the key for the starter it was making some clicks under the hood, near the TPS, but nothing happened with the starter. After taking the starter out and having it checked at schuck, where it tested good, I put it back in. Now once you turn the key to spin the starter the whole dash goes black and nothing happens. kinda gets a guys goat, I just hope the wires are not all screwed up.

 

 

Jeff

Sounds like a bad ground, or a bad battery terminal -- under heavy load, it becomes an open, and the car looses all power. I've had it happen before when the battery terminal was not tightented, just placed on the battery, and also when the ground between the battery and the engine block got kind of corroded.

 

Z

Sounds like a bad ground, or a bad battery terminal -- under heavy load, it becomes an open, and the car looses all power. I've had it happen before when the battery terminal was not tightented, just placed on the battery, and also when the ground between the battery and the engine block got kind of corroded.

 

Z

 

I got it to turn over with a screwdriver but it still don't work with the ign, and key the dash just blacks out.

 

Jeff

Well... then... the bad battery connector or bad ground is not it.

 

What were you jumping with the screwdriver? Were you jumping 12 volts to the little spade terminal on the starter solinoid, or to the big bolt on the motor itself?

 

if you were jumping it to the bolt, I'd say that the solinoid is toast (despite them checking it), and is not properly sending power to the motor. If you were jumping it to the little signal terminal, I'd say the ignition switch is toast -- I've seen this on a number of loyales and EA81's (and my justy kind of does it now too).

I figured out what it was.....

the wire that goes from the ignition (key) switch to the starter (black w/ red line) must have grounded its self somewhere along the line. I cut the wire at the back of the ignition and jumped it to the starter.

 

 

Jeff

Yup, that would do it...

 

Z

When things black out under load like you mentioned the problem is usually due to a bad connection in the power lead to the accessories from the battery. That includes the fusible link connections. Be sure the battery connections are clean also.

Right on....

It seemed as though there was a grounding out issue between the key and the starter on that black w/ the red wire I just bypassed it and she seems to be good to go.

Thanks for the help though guys, any info always helps!!

 

Jeff

If something in the power buss was grounding out then a fuse would have blown. At least if the wiring hasn't been messed with.

 

Another possible source of this kind of trouble I forgot to mention is a bad connection in the ignition switch area.

 

 

 

Another possible source of this kind of trouble I forgot to mention is a bad connection in the ignition switch area.

 

 

Oh at the end of the pigtail on the tumbler switch, I never even thought of that either.

 

Jeff