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Rear sway bar pic compair 16mm to 20mm


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#1 Subi81

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 12:33 AM

When I got it from the junk yard it didn't look that much bigger.

smaller one is 16mm (sedan RX) larger one is 20mm (4wd XT).

Definatly makes the car more tail happy at high speed can't really tell if it changed anything at low speed.


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Has anyone messed with xt6 front bars on a wagon? I think I might have to much stiffness in the rear now.

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 01:00 AM

I have XT6 bars.

19mm front

20mm rear

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 01:10 AM

So does the rear end want to step out, or is it pretty nuetral?

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 01:19 AM

I have 20s front and rear.... between that and my springs, the car gets a little tailhappy occasionally, but its easy to control.

I am a little more carefull in the rain, but then again, everyone else should be too;)

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 07:44 AM

I've driven a '87 turbowagon that had XT6 swaybars front and rear and it felt like it handled on rails. But then of course I also had a great feel for the car as well;)

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 10:34 AM

I have 20s front and rear.... between that and my springs, the car gets a little tailhappy occasionally, but its easy to control.

I am a little more carefull in the rain, but then again, everyone else should be too;)


Caleb's been in at least one situation where adding a 20mm to the rear makes the assend a little happy. As in good and sideways at about 60 mph in the imp. I caught it, but there was some pucker factor involved. I'm way more used to it after a couple of years behind the wheel.

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 10:38 AM

Caleb's been in at least one situation where adding a 20mm to the rear makes the assend a little happy. As in good and sideways at about 60 mph in the imp. I caught it, but there was some pucker factor involved. I'm way more used to it after a couple of years behind the wheel.


I remember that.. That was a lot of fun! Yeah.. there was a bit of pucker factor involved, but it was worth it..lol

#8 Subi81

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 07:20 PM

Well I am with you guys I can't stand understeer.

Thanks for the replies

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 07:52 PM

Understeer is when you scare the driver. Oversteer is when you scare the passenger.

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 09:43 PM

Oversteer:

Front:
-3.0 deg camber
a TON of castor
350 lb spring
0 Toe

Rear:
0.0 camber
1/2 inch toe out
450 lb spring

If THAT doesnt give you enough oversteer...I dont know what will. :eek:

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 09:54 PM

I've been tempted to swap the rear out with a 19mm, and then put the 20mm back in and swap the front wiht a 19mm and see what makes a diff. in handling. I know a stiffer sway bar on one end will make it oversteer more, where a stiffer bar on the other end makes it understeer more but I can't remember which.. Gotta dig out my Wyotech suspension lecture :D

Btw, the turbowagon Russ mentioned is mine :D and I think part of the reason it seems like it handles on rails is that now I have 20mm bars front and rear, where before it only had the stock 16mm or 18mm (What did GL turbo wagons come with??) in the front, and NO bar in the rear...

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 10:08 PM

(What did GL turbo wagons come with??)


IIRC, the stock one on my wagon was 15mm

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Posted 25 August 2005 - 03:07 PM

That is exatly what I am talking about scare the passenger!




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