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pnuematic adjustable ride height (air ride) questions
Posted 13 March 2006 - 01:57 AM
Posted 13 March 2006 - 02:00 AM
My guess is that the replacements were to expensive for most.
Posted 13 March 2006 - 03:10 AM
I think it was subyluvr2212 that let the air out of his XT6 for autocross once. You might PM him and find out. I do recall that whomever did do it, said the car handled great afterwards.
I had an XT6 with a complete, working setup for a while, as well as a GL-10 Turbo (automatic pig) wagon. I didn't really care for the air ride in the XT6 but it suited the wagon well. Don't think you could get it in a manual transmission wagon in the States, though (and in my opinion that's just as well!)
Posted 13 March 2006 - 03:10 AM
Posted 13 March 2006 - 03:20 AM
After seeing the new range rovers though, I think a Subie with the same set up would be sweet.
Has anyone tried aftermarket air bags like thy put on the big monster trucks and the low riders?
Posted 13 March 2006 - 04:39 AM
cheaper alternative to $600 replacments
You can go used. Other than that...the custom fab work will either take too much time or way too much money to even come close to touching that.
Personally, I think it's a great idea. I did like it in the wagon...while it worked...all ten minutes of it. But is it worth the hassle? Not for me. Maybe if it was brand new, out of a Rover...(if they're any more reliable) I'd go for it.
Posted 13 March 2006 - 08:07 AM
they are troublesome at times, but not too bad if you're prepared.
first - with good maintenance the air struts will last longer than you have the car. get a decent set (used) which isn't hard to do since people are always dumping them. then look up my post on reconditioning the air struts. the bags essentially fail to rust build up at the base of the strut/air bag conjunction. the metal lip rusts and the air bag rubs against it. extend the air strut, wire brush and sand all the rust off and paint it. that will protect the strut. i've never had a blown air strut in my multiple XT6's. my now rusted to death daily driver has 215,000 miles and i got it with 105,000. still the same air struts and they are in great condition....they'd go another 100,000 i would suspect, at least the air bag would which is the main failure point.
do this maintenance on the struts, replace all the o-rings in the system and they are much more reliable. few people do this kind of maintenance on their air system.
the air compressor, tank and drier assembly is the trickiest part. there are a number of leakage and failure points here. the tank solenoid and pressure sender, the air compressor has a weak valve, the piston can fail and the line fitting there crack as well. these are essentially unfixable. some of these can be cleaned, like the pressure sender typically gets clogged internally. remove it and clean it.
there are no aftermarket replacements or rebuild kits for these. best bet is to have an extra set of everything around for replacement. troubleshooting is very time consuming and tedious...and results are iffy. easier just to replace what normally fails - air compressor, tank or the suspension computer.
the system is maintable, but requires a learning curve and spare parts. in 5 years my 215,000 mile daily driver only failed one time and that was last year after taking the car off the road for a couple months for other work. other than that i don't recall it ever failing, maybe once that i forget. letting the system sit is not a good thing. before that i went 100,000 miles without anything but preventative maintenance - pulled the struts once for reconditioning mentioned above and replaced all the o-rings.
the ride height can be adjustable somewhat. letting all the air out and driving is certainly not good or even safe. the car bounces like crazy on any kind of bump. bridge joints are especially painful and dangerous.
Posted 14 March 2006 - 12:21 AM
Just wondering. Bear in mind I have no experience in this arena and very little knowledge.
Thanks for humoring me.
Posted 14 March 2006 - 06:21 AM
i've looked into it and haven't found any that would be an easy bolt-on and i have plenty of spare parts so i didn't go to far with it.
Posted 14 March 2006 - 07:16 AM
Posted 14 March 2006 - 07:25 AM
Posted 14 March 2006 - 08:56 AM
you said your rear air suspension was still in use. this computer controls those, so disconnecting the connector will make it such that they don't work anymore.
Thanks for the pic, I will do this today.
if you disconnect with air in and they don't leak they should stay there for awhile and you can reconnect if they ever need to air up.
this picture is from an XT6 - so im' not positive if it will look the same, but i know other EA82 air compressors and some air components look the same and the canadian model XT6 had air ride height buttons like the EA82, so it could be the same. i'd imagine it's routed the same way, behind the fuse box, down by the handle to pop the engine hood.
Posted 07 May 2006 - 12:17 PM
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